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Post by thelma on Apr 13, 2008 11:16:09 GMT -5
www.wktv.com/news/local/17592264.htmlThe above link only has minimum details as the husband suffering from multiple stab wounds to the stomach was brought to the ER in St. Elizabeths where he died. His wife was arrested and is currently in Lock Up at UPD. Does anyone have any details that have not been printed as yet?
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Post by frankcor on Apr 13, 2008 11:20:33 GMT -5
That'll teach the son of a bitch.
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Post by Ralph on Apr 13, 2008 11:24:32 GMT -5
Gee.......It's Sunday, you don't expect the OD to do any work today do you?
I guess we'll have to wait for the 6 O'clock news for this one.
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Post by thelma on Apr 13, 2008 11:40:55 GMT -5
That'll teach the son of a bitch. ........................................................................................ The wife was arrested on Manslaughter charges - NOT murder. Makes me wonder if this might be a "self-defense" type of attack. I know I will be watching the NEWS at WKTV at 6 PM!!!!! |
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Post by Swimmy on Apr 13, 2008 12:04:48 GMT -5
Or, it could be a "heat of passion" homicide. Perhaps she found out he was cheating and in a fit of rage stabbed him multiple times...
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Post by thelma on Apr 13, 2008 13:58:18 GMT -5
But Swimmy - the police do NOT decide what only a Jury can decide. "Heat of Passion" crimes usually end up with a Murder charge and conviction.
Manslaughter usually means the person did NOT mean to kill the other party and it was an "accidential" type of act.
Still - I guess to end all this speculation, we will have to wait to hear what WKTV announces on their 6 PM News program.
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Post by thelma on Apr 13, 2008 14:30:47 GMT -5
www.uticaod.com/Here is the link to what the OD just put on their Website. This was a domestic type incident and the parties lived at the corner of Court Street and Lenox Ave. Maybe I was right - she fought back in a self defense mode and ended up killing him.
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Post by dgriffin on Apr 13, 2008 14:32:35 GMT -5
I wonder if this will be similar to a manslaughter case in this area a few years back. The socialite woman plugged 6 bullets into her husband in the kitchen one morning as he left for work, where he had a girlfriend. Quickly reloading, she shot him an additional six times in the back as he tried to get out the kitchen door. All in self defense, her attorney claimed. She got 3 years and is now back in the swing of things, having had an exemplary prison career assisting other women in a Connecticut reformatory, set among the fruited plains near New Haven, conveniently located not far from the Yale University faculty, who provided liberal academics to study the women and their issues. No word on the girlfriend.
If Mrs. Voce can't get the same deal, she doesn't move in the right circles.
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Post by Disgusted-Daily on Apr 13, 2008 14:49:01 GMT -5
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Post by bobbbiez on Apr 13, 2008 14:54:38 GMT -5
 "Another one bites the dust!"  Doesn't anyone anymore know how to talk things out? Even if you can't do it between yourselves, that's what lawyers are for. Right Swimmy?  Nothing but violence, violence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
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Post by Clipper on Apr 13, 2008 15:45:34 GMT -5
We had a lady here that killed her husband and tried to claim abuse and self defense. It was too bad that she shot him in the back from a distance of 12 feet while he was seated at the kitchen table. He slumped over with his face in his tossed salad, and she and her son stole the man's coin collection, and were arrested in a motel room in Cherokee NC, where they had ODed on Meth, and spent the man's money in the slots at the indian casino. The self defense issue didn't fly far in that particular case. Her AND sonny boy are doing their time. Not EVERY woman that cries abuse, is telling the truth, and some of them actually abuse the man in the relationship. Women aren't all prettiness and perfume. Some are rotten, devious and miserable, just as the men that perpetrate the same offenses.
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Post by Swimmy on Apr 13, 2008 16:23:47 GMT -5
Thelma,
Usually, the charges are made by the DA and what the DA thinks will result in a conviction. So if the facts lead up to a "heat of passion" charge, then the DA will make the appropriate charge. From the od article, it appears it was a domestic dispute. don't know if he attacked her first or what.
Anyway, the only time a lesser offense is given to the jury is when the evidence does not appear strong enough to convict the defendant of the original charge, but it supports the lesser charge. Manslaughter does not always have to be provided as a lesser offense. And it does not always mean the defendant didn't mean to kill. In fact, a "heat of passion" manslaughter charge is the opposite, the defendant intended to kill the victim, but was in such an irrational state of mind that it was legally impossible to develop the intent necessary for murder.
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Post by bobbbiez on Apr 13, 2008 17:24:48 GMT -5
Hey Swimmy, you're looking good. ;D Look to your left side of your screen.
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Post by Swimmy on Apr 13, 2008 19:25:23 GMT -5
I try. Now I have something to look at besides what I'm reading, lol!
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Post by kim on Apr 13, 2008 20:35:44 GMT -5
She's 42? Holy shit, she hasn't aged well.
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"Another one bites the dust!" 
