Libertarians Are Terrorists

[dgriffin]

KansasCity.com



Libertarians Are Terrorists, Says the State of Alabama

In short, if you oppose gun control, taxes, military intervention, most of our national debt being held by foreign nations, or just a large federal government, you might be a terrorist!

The Alabama Department of Homeland Security (ALDHS), established in June of 2003, has recently constructed a website that defines Domestic Terrorists as those who oppose gun control and a strong federal government.

Under the heading “Anti-Government Groups”, the site displays a flag that is widely considered one of the first symbols of American patriotism and reads, “In general, these terrorists claim that the U.S. government is infringing on their individual rights, and/or that the government's policies are criminal and immoral. Such groups may hold that the current government is violating the basic principles laid out by the U.S. Constitution…”

www.chrisbrunner.com/2007/05/09/libertarians-are-terrorists-says-the-state-of-alabama/



The Associated Press


Missouri report on militias, terrorists draws criticism


COLUMBIA, Mo. | A new document meant to help Missouri law enforcement agencies identify militia members or domestic terrorists has drawn criticism for some of the warning signs mentioned.

The Feb. 20 report called "The Modern Militia Movement" mentions such red flags as political bumper stickers for third-party candidates, such as U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, who ran for president last year; talk of conspiracy theories, such as the plan for a superhighway linking Canada to Mexico; and possession of subversive literature.

"It seems like they want to stifle political thought," said Roger Webb, president of the University of Missouri campus Libertarians. "There are a lot of third parties out there, and none of them express any violence. In fact, if you join the Libertarian Party, one of the things you sign in your membership application is that you don't support violence as a means to any ends."


www.kansascity.com/116/story/1086524.html


Try to keep in mind that a democracy is supposed to be "of the people, for the people." Sounds like we've moved to "against the people."

[Clipper]

Scary stuff! I have to wonder about the feasibility of a superhighway from Mexico to Canada. Would that not help us out with the illegal immigration problems? The illegals could cruise right through the good old USA and settle in Canada. I think most would concede it might be a good idea. Heck, we can even put up service plazas with the menus in spanish. Hell, some restaurants already have bi-lingual menus anyway. With service plaza's they would not have to get off the highway, and there would be less chance they would find a place that they might decide to settle, BEFORE they cross into Canada.

Gee, we know at least ONE libertarian that posts here with us. I don't find him to be "dangerous". I find him to just be highly principled and idealistic at worst, haha. But then again, he does have a ponytail, and he may even have a tatoo or so. I never checked out his bumper for stickers.

Ya never know though. He may attempt to overthrow the government, after a valiant sea battle for Lake Delta, and a siege on Fort Stanwix.

[dgriffin]

Mar 25, 2009 9:13:02 GMT -5 Clipper said:

Gee, we know at least ONE libertarian that posts here with us. I don't find him to be "dangerous". I find him to just be highly principled and idealistic at worst, haha. But then again, he does have a ponytail, and he may even have a tatoo or so. I never checked out his bumper for stickers.

Uh ... actually, I do. Has very scary ideas. Expects his government to be accountable to him and his fellow voters. Loves Mossbergs. Won't wear blinders. Probably a fellow traveler of Jefferson, Adams and that crowd of ingrates. I think we should put him on monitor status. Party barge ... hah!
It's no doubt used for smuggling little blonde women on and off the lake.

[Clipper]

I wonder if the barge has a gun tub. I could volunteer. I would even bring a large washtub, and my Daisy Red Ryder.

Dangerous business smuggling those small blondes. The biggest thing is trying to keep them quiet, hahaha!

That is a strange smuggling operation anyhow. The smuggled blonde is rumored to bring home made goodies whenever being smuggled, and is allowed to bask unrestrained on the forecastle of the vessel.

[frankcor]

Vote Freedom!

Vote Libertarian!

[clarencebunsen]

Clipper,

The Mexico to Canada Superhighway was stopped because the proposed route of I-35 some 40 years ago would have taken out the Duluth Rose Garden, Lief Erickson Park & the Duluth Curling Club. The good people of Duluth said no, no & no. It made no economic sense but how can you argue with people who wear horned helmets and value roses over highways?

frank, thanks to your post on another thread, I downloaded Common Sense last weekend. Now there was a terrorist!

[Clipper]

That is interesting Clarence, and I don't blame the people of Duluth for wanting to preserve those places. There is plenty of open land for highway construction without going through downtown Duluth. I lived there for a short time, and it would only take a jog in the road to swing the route Northwest a mile and go along the top of the hill through Proctor, Pike Lake, and upper reaches of the city of Duluth. The rose gardens ARE a beautiful asset, and have been there for a long time. I guess if you live in that semi arctic clime, you are protective of anything that blooms, haha.

I drove a tractor trailer when I lived there, and hauled paper from Thunder Bay, Ontario, to Chicago and points South and West. Sure would have made my life easier to have a decent road to travel from T'bay to Duluth, rather than the twisty two laned US61, which rambles along the cliffs, above Lake Superior.

[clarencebunsen]

God said to Abraham "Kill me a son"
Abe said, "God, you must be puttin' me on."
God said, "Abe you can do what you like but, the next time you see me you better run."
Abe said. "Where you want this killin'done."
God said, "Out on Highway 61."

Robert Zimmerman

[Clipper]

I love the piece by Zimmerman. US 61 IS one hell of a dangerous piece of road from Duluth to the the border. We used to have at least 3 or 4 deer and bear strikes a week, and I have heard that many of the Monson drivers have lost their lives over the years, as they went over the side while going Northbound.

Over a period of years, I have driven all of the portion of US 61 from the border to Southern Missouri. It used to be a favorite way to avoid the Wisconsin scales, and also used it to avoid the superscale outside of St Paul on I94. I always hated it when they would overload a trailer, and I would have to make the slow and tedious trip down the 2 lane all the way to Chicago to avoid the scales. The mill would overload the trailer by 5 or 6 thousand pounds, and they still would expect the load to be delivered the following morning in Chicago via that back roads. The crazy canucks would simply say, "aaah, what's another 2 or 3 rolls" LOL. I always wanted to take them along while I leaned and swayed back down the North Shore with the overload. I guarantee that I would have them leaving "hickeys" on the seat cushion when the climbed back down to solid ground, LOL.

Well, we are getting quite a ways off topic, but I would love to sit down with you some time and compare memories of the beauty of that part of the country.

[Swimmy]

Damn, i always thought of myself as a patriot!

[Clipper]

Exactly Swimmy! I am with Frank on this one. While my politics may differ on some issues, my views on freedom are the same. I don't find libertarians to be dangerous as long as they are simply against the way our government is doing business, and not radically planning a revolution, although that may become a reality on some level or another sometime in the future.

People have the right to bear arms, and I am 100% behind that. I personally have many weapons in my gun cabinet. People have the right to assemble, so if they want to be prepared to fight, SHOULD IT BECOME NECESSARY TO THEIR SAFETY, they should be allowed to do so without government interference. Many of us that ARE trained to use weapons, and to defend ourselves were trained to do so BY THE GOVERNMENT. Others should have the right to that same level of skill to defend themselves, should the need arise.

Nobody loves their country more than those of us like Frank and I that have served it in the military. We, like you Swimmy, are PATRIOTS, not radicals or terrorists. I respect my government, but when the day comes that some pansy assed liberal comes knocking on my door to confiscate my weapons, he better be wearing body armor. The day that the government takes weapons from the hands of the citizens, will be a very sad day in the history of America. It will be recorded as "the day that democracy died".

[frankcor]

I fear that if there will be a revolution, it will not be the people overthrowing a tyrannical government like the American Revolution. The current death threats being made against AIG executives (and their CHILDREN for God's sake) is perhaps fortelling of the poor rising against the rich -- akin to the French Revolution. And that will lead us nowhere good.

[dgriffin]

Mar 26, 2009 14:30:30 GMT -5 frankcor said:

I fear that if there will be a revolution, it will not be the people overthrowing a tyrannical government like the American Revolution. The current death threats being made against AIG executives (and their CHILDREN for God's sake) is perhaps fortelling of the poor rising against the rich -- akin to the French Revolution. And that will lead us nowhere good.

I guess I've said this before, but repeating myself has never stopped me. For the concern you point out, Frank, we have social welfare programs. To keep the distance between the haves and have nots close enough so that the nots don't rise up in revolt. The powers that be are keeping the price of beer artificially low, too, I notice. Smokes .... well, they must have lost that one to the insurance companies. But electronics are artificially low, that is prices increasing less that the rate of inflation.
It makes so much sense, I'm starting to believe it.

Funny you should mention the French Revolution. It wasn't the monarchy so much. It was the tremendous self-aggrandizing bureaucracy that supported the monarchy that finally crushed the masses so much that they revolted. We seem to have such a bureaucracy in America today.

[gearofzanzibar]

I know this will probably only add to my profile in a government database somewhere, but...

If there is a revolution I suspect the side with all the guns has a pretty big advantage. I'm glad I'm on that side.

[frankcor]

I'm afraid it may be our guns against their tanks.