Eagle/Kossouth

[lilbump1980]

oh sorry to hear that. Ya i was at blessed sacrament from 85-91 or 92 idk k-6 grade. I had 9 in my class.. sad isnt it.. I remember i chipped my front tooth on a soda bottle from mardany's b/c it was glass. I would walk there from Madison ave with my mom and friends. It was so nice.

[Clipper]

You WERE there before any of us Sunshine. Back when horses still pulled the streetcars? Only kidding kiddo. I can't remember why the name Eddie Mardaney is so familiar to me. I was not in that neighborhood in those days, and He most likely went to Proctor didn't he? I wonder if I knew him from the Regency or somewhere back in the late 60's or early 70's.

Hell, you were a knockout in those days. You hung around the store because of him, and he didn't take notice? What the hell, was the poor guy blind?? ???I remember you from the days quite a few years later at Joe Tripps, and you were still a knockout then, hmmm.

[dgriffin]

Bobbbiez, I stopped each day after school (and sometimes before) at Mardany's, but it wasn't called that then, I don't think. Do you remember the name in the early 1950's? I've been trying to think of it. I started Blessed Sacrament in 1948 and left in the fall of '52. Came back to Cornhill in '56, but stayed in school at Lourdes for the year, before going to high school.

There were indeed Mom & Pop's on every corner. Many of our neighbors shopped daily, as had their forefathers in Europe. I think we were unusual in that my Dad shopped a week at a time at the A&P on Genesee St.

[lilbump1980]

And I used to go to Zalatan's with my friend who lived on Dudley.

[kim]

Dudley? One of my best friends grew up on Dudley and James. We used to sit on the porch and watch the, uhhh...happenings. He finally got out of there and moved to Westmoreland after deciding it just wasn't safe where he was. Sad.

[Clipper]

I remember shopping with my grandmother daily. She would buy monthly canned goods and such from Carrock's or Chanatry's, and have them delivered to the house, and then daily or every other day, she went to Hapanowicz on Columbia Square, or to Tamer's Market on "the truck route" in Whitesboro, for meat. My grandparents new the Tamers, when they were still at the old Carey's Corners location. They were true city folks and they had lived through the depression, and although they had a car, they still used it frugally, and gram took the bus to shop most times. They used the car to take a drive on Sundays, or to go outside the city for something, where the bus lines didn't run.

Hap's on Columbia Square was a really neat place. They would whack up a chicken in a matter of seconds and wrap it in butcher's paper, and if you wanted pork chops, they asked how many, and with a knife and cleaver in hand, they chopped them off the whole loin and wrapped them. There were wooden floors, and sawdust to soak up the blood. They cut the meat on a huge butcher block behind the counter.

There was also a little store called "Carey's" on Main St in Whitesboro, across from the end of Palmer Ave. The store was in the front room of the Carey's house. They later moved into a bigger store called Carey's Market on the Seneca Turnpike, where there is a strip mall behind KFC now. It later became a Foodland or IGA I think.

Those little family operated stores fed America for a lot of years, and the income from the limited inventory fed the store keeper's family also.

[lilbump1980]

While i was in highschool I worked at Haps. It was a great place to work. And their meets are fantastic.

[lilbump1980]

I hung out on dudley umm in the 90s when we were in elementary/junior high

[kim]

Dec 6, 2008 14:26:48 GMT -5 lilbump1980 said:

I hung out on dudley umm in the 90s when we were in elementary/junior high

Elementary/junior high school in the 90's? Oh no, you weren't one of those little kids I used to almost run over when on my way to visit my friend because you'd dart out in front of my car, were you? :-o

Actually...were you a girl scout in 1994, by chance? If so, did you meet at the Neighborhood Center or Agape House? If so...I was probably your girl scout leader.

[bobbbiez]

Clipper, who said "he didn't take notice?" ;D I don't tell tales out of school.

You probably did know Eddie because he hung out in many of the places you've mentioned in a lot of the topics here.
Don't know what year he passed away. I didn't know it myself but someone else told me he did. He was older then both of us.

Hey, I do remember the horses traveling through Utica. There was an old man that use to peddle his produce by horse and wagon throughout the streets of Utica. He always allowed me to brush his horse while he did his thing with the neighbors.
Big thrill for me since I love horses.

I also remember my parents having our own chickens, rabbits and pigeons in our backyard before the city changed the ordinance to, no wild life raised within the city limits.
In fact, it was only six years ago that we sold my parents house on Warren St and had to tear down the old chicken coop before the closing.

The old bar, The Hole in the Wall," closed but still standing on Oriskany Blvd, across from Ralph's place of business, formally owned by the Arcuri's, got it's original name because next door to the bar was a stable and the horses use to stick their heads through a "hole in the wall" into the bar.

Tell you something that I thought was hysterical. Up until about six years ago there still was a city ordinance on the books which reads what days of the week and what side of the street that one should tie their horses to the post on.

"Those WERE the days my friend."

[bobbbiez]

Dave, I really don't remember what the name was before it was Mardany's. Just always remembered it called that. I was in my teens when I hung out there and also School View across from UFA.

Maybe jon can find that out for us. He's good at that.

[bobbbiez]

Dave, what was really nice about the Mommas & Papas stores back in our time was the owners usually lived in back of their own stores and were our neighbors. All knew each other and took care of and interest in the neighborhoods.

The only down side of that was I couldn't get away with sh*t, because my parents knew everyone and vise versa.

[jon hynes]

Dec 5, 2008 4:33:33 GMT -5 @kracker said:

I believe it's closed now & is just an empty building. At on onetime they had a small cafe & served food which was excellent.

Belvedere's is in fact closed. I took a trip past there looking for Dave now that he's back on the ground again. There's a big sign in the window that says OPEN and a smaller one that says CLOSED. There is a garage door on the right hand side where the trucks could load and unload, and park farther back. The driveway continued to Kossouth further South from the corner.

[jon hynes]

Dec 6, 2008 15:50:38 GMT -5 bobbbiez said:

also School View across from UFA.

School View was on the corner of Hobart and Elm. Another popular hangout was Chuck's Confectionery run by Jim Moses a block further South on Elm. Jim would make me a shopping bag of buttered popcorn every day. I never had to pay for it (50 cents) because someone would always bet that I couldn't finish it before lunch period was over. I never lost even once.

[bobbbiez]

jon, was it Jim's son who was one of the boys who was in the Utica Police Cadets and went on to become a Oneida C. Sheriff?

Hell jon!! ;D Now you got me wishing for a bag of greasy buttery popcorn.
I remember those bags well but from the peddler who use to be at the Addison Miller swimming pool every day in the summer but it only cost me 10 cents a bag.