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Post by Clipper on May 11, 2011 10:15:27 GMT -5
hahah. Sorry Stoney, I can picture JT sitting on the opposite gunwhale of a boat, trying to tilt it to the right, preventing it from capsizing as you hang way over to the left, hahaha.   |
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Post by stoney on May 11, 2011 10:28:37 GMT -5
Sometimes it's just one big chuckle-fest around here!!  |
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Post by Clipper on May 11, 2011 10:57:30 GMT -5
Gotta love it!   |
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Post by dgriffin on May 11, 2011 12:11:28 GMT -5
Making The Sale
Times change. I remember sitting at the kitchen table doing homework while my mother peeled potatoes and my father fooled with a lamp he was trying to get working again. My mother asked my father, "Who should I vote for, Jack?"
"Stevenson," he said, "a Democrat is always the working man's friend."
"But I like Ike," she said. "He looks like a President."
"I suppose so," said my father, "but what about Father Gallagher, Mary? He likes Stevenson."
"The priests always like Democrats," she said. "Something fishy there."
"That's sacrilegious, Mary," he said.
My mother didn't respond. A proper Irish Catholic woman in 1952 did not play against a Catholic trump card, not in our neighborhood.
"What about the bomb?" she said.
"What bomb?" asked my father.
"The Atomic Bomb," she said.
"What about the Atomic Bomb?" he inquired.
"Well, " said my mother, "Ike is a military man. He'd know how to stop one."
"Now, just how would Ike stop an Atomic Bomb, Mary," said my father, exasperated.
"I don't know," she said, "and that's probably a military secret."
"Uh huh," said my father.
"Just how do you think Father Gallagher would stop a bomb?" she asked.
"Father Gallagher is a priest," said my father with some emphasis,"he doesn't have to know how to stop a bomb!"
"Well, I'm talking about if it lands here in Cornhill," she said, heat now rising in her face. "After all, Ike can't be everywhere! Father Gallagher is always in some gin mill ....
"Mary!" interjected my father.
".... do you think Stevenson is going to come to Utica and stop an Atomic Bomb?" she ended with a flourish.
My father was quiet for a moment as he stared up at the ceiling, grinding his teeth
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"I think," he said finally, "you should vote for Ike."
"No!" she shouted, slamming the potato peeler down on the table. "I will vote with my husband," she said. "I'll vote for Stevenson."
My father made a good decision. He got up and left the kitchen.
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Post by lioneljoe on May 11, 2011 22:50:38 GMT -5
But I will be attending the fundraiser out of respect for the hardworking committee people that I've built relationships with and they're the ones that usually do the hard work anyway. As for Arcuri and Roefaro. Roefaro is the sitting mayor and Arcuri the former Congressman, so although many may have differences, they owuld draw a g=bigger crowd to help raise money for our candidates. I'm sure neither has anything to gain from it, so for that, I have to be appreciative. . Larry, this is not a dig on you... but a party that puts forth Roefaro and Arcuri as its public face is not a party with new ideas or ambition to find them. In fact, it gives the impression that that the status quo is quite acceptable and business as usual is the order of the day. |
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Post by JGRobinson on May 12, 2011 5:00:10 GMT -5
Dave, great story, funny how we decide who to vote for. Could be the look, Party or the actual history of the candidate or none of the above!
Could you imagine how tough it must have been in the 1800's to decide? Little or no info available, likely you will never even hear them speak, many couldn't read the paper even if they knew how!
Now we have tons of info yet we still dont know crap about them!
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Post by dgriffin on May 12, 2011 6:50:34 GMT -5
JG, I often had that very thought: imagine being asked to vote for President when your choice was between Andrew Jackson and any of his opponents in the 1820's. It is said that Presidential election campaigns at the time took place in the newspapers, since travel was difficult and it would be impossible to reach your voters. Here is where the federal USPS system came into play, delivering mail and newspapers cheaply just about anywhere. In fact, newspapers got a discount postal rate since they were seen as the only medium that could deliver news of the Republic to all citizens in an affordable manner. With the coming of the railroads and high speed transportation, nationally based newspapers evolved. An example was Utica's Saturday Globe that from 1881 to 1924 i reached a circulation peak of almost 300,000 and was read from Maine to California each week in thirty-one localized editions. It was noted for its early use of photographs and for overall story selection.   |
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Post by Swimmy on May 12, 2011 7:03:17 GMT -5
That is why Warren Harding was produced to run for president. It was just after Women's Suffrage passed and added to the Constitution. The party leaders thought that by pushing someone who "looked" presidential the women would vote for him.
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Post by dgriffin on May 12, 2011 7:09:20 GMT -5
And that's why Pat Paulsen (sp?) seemed so funny years ago when he ran.
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Post by larry on May 12, 2011 13:03:06 GMT -5
That is why Warren Harding was produced to run for president. It was just after Women's Suffrage passed and added to the Constitution. The party leaders thought that by pushing someone who "looked" presidential the women would vote for him. So, how did we get Jimmy Carter??? LOL. For the record, I wasn't born yet, so it wasn't my fault. |
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Post by stoney on May 12, 2011 15:10:41 GMT -5
I liked Carter! He was a true humanitarian, & according to Playboy magazine, he lusted in his heart.
Because I'm just human and I'm tempted and Christ set some almost impossible standards for us. The Bible says, "Thou shalt not commit adultery." Christ said, I tell you that anyone who looks on a woman with lust has in his heart already committed adultery. I've looked on a lot of women with lust. I've committed adultery in my heart many times.... This is something that God recognizes, that I will do and have done, and God forgives me for it. But that doesn't mean that I condemn someone who not only looks on a woman with lust but who leaves his wife and shacks up with somebody out of wedlock. Christ says, don't consider yourself better than someone else because one guy screws a whole bunch of women while the other guy is loyal to his wife. The guy who's loyal to his wife ought not to be condescending or proud because of the relative degree of sinfulness.
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Post by dgriffin on May 12, 2011 15:11:27 GMT -5
And ... Carter ran against Gerald Ford, a victim of not only his own lackluster but also the national media. (Unfortunate, because Gerry Ford was a politician's politician ... to politicians ... a real workhorse and doer who got the job done in Congress.) Carter was considered "far outside the Beltway" and so soon after the Watergate mess he appeared like a fresh wind .... a senator, governor, businessman and gentleman. His campaign for President included some pretty darn good strageties (see Wiki) and his message seemed to be "I don't work for anyone but you."
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Post by stoney on May 12, 2011 15:15:36 GMT -5
AND...Let's not forget the Larry Flynt/Jimmy Carter's sister debacle.
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Post by realist13413 on May 12, 2011 17:17:25 GMT -5
And after all that, I didn't even get to go. Instead, I'm sitting at my son's baseball game. Even Joe can approve of that!! |
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Post by lioneljoe on May 12, 2011 17:47:00 GMT -5
And after all that, I didn't even get to go. Instead, I'm sitting at my son's baseball game. Even Joe can approve of that!! Sure... I enjoy taking my kids to to the Syracuse Chiefs every summer. It is one of the treasures we do have in our area. |
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