Wine

[Clipper]

Geez Kim! Boones farm and sambuca??? That ought to give new meaning to the term "projectile vomiting". Just throw in a shot of jaegermeister for a little added distance. haha

[kim]

My mother likes Manachevitz. Blah. onjeesun, you're right about the lyrics. I had never caught that before. Oh my! Yeah, I wonder what Brender and Eddie are up to now. Clipper...don't mention jagermeister, either. LOL!

[Ralph]

jagermeister

Works good if you're stripping wax off an old floor.

[frankcor]

Well, the way I always figured Billy Joel's meaning as he progressed through the song, once you start taking whites, it's only a matter of time before you have to start taking reds to bring yourself down.

Clipper, your comments about European vs California wines were the common perception 20 or 30 years ago. The fact is, most European grape vines are currently growing with California vine roots. When they first imported European vines to California, they were very impressed with how well the vines grew in the central valley climate. Then someone had the bright idea of transplanting some California vines in Europe to see how well they would grow in the European climate. Unfortunately, they also imported a fungus that wiped out the the vines in France, Spain and Italy. Oops! So they planted California roots and grafted the European varieties onto the imported roots. Otherwise, the European varieties would have become extinct.

With modern advances, much of it developed at Cornell U (Go Big Red!) the vines growing in New York today produce some of the finest quality grapes in the world. Genetically engineered Finger Lake Reislings are kicking Rhine Valley butt in every market in the world, for example.

Heh, the state-funded research at Cornell is one use of my tax dollars with which I have little complaint. But then, it's all about the food and the wine.

[onjeesun]

Some of the best wine I make is from the Finger lakes Region. Cornell U developed both! There is a Cayuga White grape that I love, and one called DeChaunac which is like a Bordeaux. The engineering was in how hardy the plants are to withstand the upstate NY climate and the shorter season. I remember when the Dechaunac 1st became available it was called #14982 or something like that. I drive out every fall to buy fresh product directly from the vineyards. Nice drive that time of year too. One time my dad broke a 5 gallon container of fresh grape juice in our mini-van. After a few days in the sun it smelled like we were driving a brewery !

Honest officer!!

[frankcor]

Oh, and it's about the music, too.

Kim, you call that eclectic? Looks like all rock to me. Check out the mix I threw together for today's drive to and from work:

The Rest of Your Life -- Kenny Loggins
Shake You Down -- Gregory Abbott
Nessun Dorma -- Pavarotti
Reelin' in the Years -- Steely Dan
Manana de Carnaval -- Luis Miguel
My Imortal -- Evanescence
Somos Novios -- Andrea Bocelli & Christina Aguilera
Neither One of Us -- Gladys Knight & the Pips
Daughters -- John Meyer

I really put my speakers through some changes

[frankcor]

onjeesun, are you peeking over my shoulder? LOL!

[onjeesun]

I'm not peaking over your shoulder but am listening to your playlist. My taste is so eclectic I couldn't list it all.

Gino Vanelli
Jaco Pastorius
Doobie Bros.
Bach
Alison Krauss (Saw her and the boys at the landmark last year)
Chris Rice
James Taylor
Sting/Police
Tower of Power
Weather Report
Glen Miller and the Orch.
Corrine Bailey Rae......forget this!!


I shouldn't have even started. Without an hour a list won't do it justice.

Last concert I went to was John Mayer. Saw Bocelli at the Pepsi Arena- which it isn't called anymore either.

[jduges]

Kim-

the reason wine gives you more of a headache is because of one main fact. Sugar. Most wine has a high sugar content which helps dehydrate you (along with the alcohol) and it constricts your blood vessels.

most alcoholic beverages (beer, Liquor, etc) is very low in sugar. They also have a higher concentration of water in them which helps to fight dehydration.

Another contributing factor is the fact that 4 oz of wine is akin to 12oz of beer or 1.5 oz of liquor. so say you have large wine glasses and you down a 750ml wine bottle in three glasses. you're talking about the equivalent of 25-26oz of wine or the equivalent to a six pack of beer. now consider how quickly you drink that one small bottle. If you polish off two small bottle it's like a 12 pack and if you get into a third bottle you talking about tying a good one on.

If you're looking for a good wine that's affordable from the Finger Lakes region, might I suggest Red Cat from Hazlitt vineyards. It's a catawaba blend that's semi sweet with a nice finish, not bitter or dry. Excellent flavor for about 8 bucks a bottle. get the big bottle. Doobie Blues from Bully hill is a great NYS white and three monkeys has a very good chardonay.

[clarencebunsen]

Bottle of Wine... Kingston Trio

The worst I ever had was El Abu, an Algerian red wine. It may be the reason Moslems ban alcohol. It cost the equivalent of just under $0.25 per bottle and was way overpriced. Undrinkable even by soldiers but someone got the bright idea of replacing the water in a water pipe (hookah) with El Abu. I can't say it was a memorable evening.

[kim]

You certainly have a few good points there, jduges!

I like the taste of the wines from the Brotherhood winery. Have any of you ever tried them?

Yeah, I guess that is mostly rock, although the jury is out on the Buffett...not sure exactly where to classify him! But I also listen to other types of music. I have a CD all about trains in the Adirondacks. I listen to that all the time and it's kind of bluegrassy, I guess.

[countrygal]

Is that winery in California?

[kim]

Brotherhood? No, it's in NY. I have trouble finding it down here, I think the closest place they sell it is in Atlanta, so I once emailed them and they asked me if I'd be interested in being a distributer for them! I thought about it but I just didn't think I had the time or energy to put into it. Would have been kind of neat, though.

[concerned]

ask for a wine that is low in tannic acid. there are some great blended varieties