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Post by stoney on Jan 25, 2010 11:52:10 GMT -5
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Post by stoney on Jan 25, 2010 12:41:47 GMT -5
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Post by dgriffin on Jan 25, 2010 12:54:37 GMT -5
Interesting ..... Mentioned in the WIBX story, but NOT by the OD: "Judge Michael Daley dismissed the case, but added, that after reviewing the grand jury minutes, it was the court's feeling that the allegations made in the letter were true. "..the allegations, Mr. Hendricks, that you brought to light in your letter were all shown to the grand jury and, in fact, the court's review of that testimony would show that they are true." From the bench, Judge Daley also encouraged Hendricks to continue to shine a light on the political scene and deals made behind closed doors." |
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Post by dgriffin on Jan 25, 2010 13:00:26 GMT -5
I'd say that the judge's statement that Hendricks' charges were true is the lead story, as WIBX headlined it:
"Judge: Allegations Are True; Charges Against Hendricks, Barry Dismissed"
And the OD's story doesn't even mention it? Is the newspaper that lopsided?
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Post by Clipper on Jan 25, 2010 13:23:54 GMT -5
While I still support Larry Jr and don't think HE was involved in any backroom dealing, I have to say that he DID commit a serious political faux pau, in both taking the picture and then telling the DA's office that he had such a picture stored in his cell phone.
I am sure that it was exasperation and frustration with the lease deal for the Vitigliano's that drove his over exuberance, but that is just what it was, an over exuberant young man overstepping the bounds of what is proper behavior.
I cannot honestly find any legitimate reason to take or to retain such a photo other than to put pressure of one kind or another of Fiorini. I also believe that the blackmail and the moneys to the CornHill non profit were a falacy of Hendrick's imagination, and simply a political ploy to cast aspersion on his opponent in the election.
Blogging about the pending case was Larry's second mistake. Make no mistake about it. Larry Jr is an honest and dedicated young man with a fire in his belly that drives him to take on the disgusting backroom dealers in area on a regular basis. It is sad to see him make these mistakes, but he will learn and bounce back.
The outcome of this case doesn't change the fact that Hendricks is a worm and did what he did simply to make his party and Larry Tanoury Jr. look bad. If he receives any support at all in the legislature and it's sessions it will be a miracle. He may be black and representing a predominately black area of the city, but he has done absolutely nothing in the past to promote any successful efforts to make things better for his district or it's residents, black or white. Larry had his heart in his work for not only his constituents, but for the whole county and really believed in making changes at any cost to himself.
Larry, step back, dust yourself off and keep up the good fight. We all make mistakes and nobody wins every battle. I will put my money on you when put up against any candidate when it comes to honesty and real personal desire to do good for those you represent.
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Post by rodwilson on Jan 25, 2010 13:26:24 GMT -5
VERY interesting stuff. So if Daley believed the allegations in the letter to be true doesn't he have a professional responsibility to bring the information to light for appropriate action? Seems like there should be a mechanism in place for crimes discovered while investigating others. If so, I'd imagine that this could cut pretty deep. Between this and the LaBella deal the area could be in for a big ol' purging!
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Post by Clipper on Jan 25, 2010 13:44:29 GMT -5
Sounds like the DA should have investigated much more thoroughly before sending the case to the grand jury in the first place. Every case we have watched unfold in the recent past, from the Sullivan case to the Steuben accident and guy from Old Forge that was handled with kid gloves. It seems that he has left his balls in his other pants and only wants to do what is politically correct for he and his cohorts, and doesn't really have a grasp on the hard cases or how to prosecute them. Time for a change in that office too?
I agree with Rod. We may be approaching a time when there will be a federal investigation such as what we saw with the Fischer investigation years ago. We may not be looking at organized crime on a widespread level, but I think it still smells of spoiled fish on a local and regional level.
I don't know if there is any justification to send anyone to jail, but I think probably a little purging of the offices could be a possibility. Maybe not prosecution, but a "suggested resignation" or two.
When the hell is that area going to find a group of pols that are honest and in it for the good of the area, and not for themselves and their personal interests? The damned patronage, nepotism, and just plain crooked crap is disgusting. Believe me when I say that I thought it was just politics as usual until I moved to an area with city manager form of city government and a county mayor and representatives that actually work for the good of the area. THAT is why the Southeast is a little more successful than the NE in attracting jobs and people who want to live here.
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Post by dgriffin on Jan 25, 2010 14:13:17 GMT -5
When the hell is that area going to find a group of pols that are honest and in it for the good of the area, and not for themselves and their personal interests? I don't think it's a matter of finding good guys. Rather it's a need to repel the bad guys. Like Willie Sutton said when asked why he robbed banks, "Because that's where the money is." And money and power will always attract criminals. Ask any crack dealer. The solution is to have strong regulations aimed at politicians and "even stronger" enforcement of laws that will stop criminals from being attracted to public office. That's what the problem is ... so called white collar criminals attracted to politics, who then rape and pillage the taxpayers. And who, when caught, often get only a hand slapping. I would suspect the necessary laws are on the books. Someone needs to enforce them and put people behind bars. If the localities and states don't do it, I think the Feds will, and they are a two edged sword. I have no idea if anyone is guilty in the case we're discussing, of course. |
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Post by corner on Jan 25, 2010 14:25:28 GMT -5
this is gonna come back and bite larry in the ass>
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Post by gearofzanzibar on Jan 25, 2010 16:38:47 GMT -5
I'm just going to bask in the warm glow of smugness. Heh.
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Post by Clipper on Jan 25, 2010 17:15:12 GMT -5
Well Larry the focus may be on you today, but when the dust settles, hopefully the focus will be on Hendricks and the rest of the morons that play the dirty game of corruption for personal gain. You have to remember that the judge too is a county employee, and when you have shaken the trees of county government and shook out a few of the nuts and bad apples, the judge is going to be a little biased in favor of the machine that put him on the bench and that pays his salary, and not too sympathetic to your cause.
I think you made a mistake when you blogged about the case while it was still in the investigative phase, and by taking the picture to begin with, and you burned yourself in the process. We all make mistakes, and your ambition has driven you to step beyond good judgment, but it doesn't signal your demise as a viable candidate for honesty and openness. Hindsight is 20/20.
I wondered and was skeptical when you became so "open" in your blogging and video postings. When you are too open to the public, you make yourself very vulnerable and visible if you DO make a mistake.
Personally, I have enjoyed your openness and your willingness to keep us posted from and insider point of view.
Just remember that with age comes maturity, with maturity comes experience and with experience comes better judgment. You are young yet and relatively inexperienced. Don't give up. Just mark this incident up to experience, and relegate it to past history. Don't ever say never. I expect to see you do good things again in the near future. This whole thing is but a pothole on the road to your political success. It is not insurmountable.
There will always be a place in this world for good people looking out for good people. Keep the faith and don't be defeated by the loss of one campaign. There is not a damned thing wrong with wanting to make a name for yourself. Some people have called you a nut, but they just don't know the true definition of passion and compassion for a cause. Most that criticize are those that are die hard followers of the party line, however corrupt it may be, and wouldn't know an honestly ambitious and honest candidate if one bit them on the ass. Hang in there Larry. The ride is not over for you. It is just getting started if ya want to stick around and climb back on the roller coaster.
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Post by lefty on Jan 25, 2010 20:31:55 GMT -5
In looking at this case a little bit I found some humor..lol I also think that the accusations of the Insight House and the head monkey monk legislator should be investigated. Rumor has it there is a relative working in the da's office and if the letter was written about the "Ordinary Joe" they would not have entertained it! There is a fine line between breaking the law and free speech, and i think the Mr Hendricks was exercising the right guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States. Politics in Oneida County are crooked as they come it . This and the other Labella fiasco are just an example. Whats next?  ?? I think the State Attorney General's Office should be called in to look at the Insight House deal! Something stinks at 800 Park Ave. |
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Post by Clipper on Jan 26, 2010 0:48:53 GMT -5
tanoury.wordpress.com/2010/01/26/does-the-truth-matter/Larry Jr blogged about his desire to pursue a political career ever since childhood. I remember his dad well, and remember the GOOD things that Larry Tanoury did for he city of Utica and the residents of Corn Hill before problems in his personal life gave his opponents snowballs to throw at his political career. This kid isn't perfect and makes mistakes, but his heart is in the right place. He isn't ready for the presidency, but he damn sure will make a damn good advocate for what is right and what is honest, if you put him on a ballot and elect him to another local office. His heart is in what he does. Anyone that shines a little light on the corruption, or threatens the status quo of local backroom politics is going to have to weather a storm of abuse from all directions. As a legislator, he may have been a loud and sometimes obnoxious maverick, but he did make the others answer some questions that nobody before him had the balls to ask. While some of you make fun of this young man, I will stand by my own opinion of him and have his back. I think with proper grooming, and more experience, we have a real political asset in the making. When you read the story that I linked above, you will see a young man that was born to be a politician and born to stand up for the rights of the working class and those that have spoken out for years but have yet to be heard. This is a lad that has lived his entire life with one ambition, and that is to be successful in finishing what his dad had started, and to represent those that need honest representation. Whatever the mistakes he may have made here in the recent past, I can assure you that his heart was in the right place and it was the frustration with the corruption and crooked dealings that may have driven him to the excess in his desire to cast a light on the crap that has been going on. City and County politics both need a serious house cleaning, and anyone with the guts to open the broom closet has my full support. Read the linked story and you will find that Larry is in politics for all the right reasons. Larry Jr can shake the trees, and all we need is for someone to follow along behind him to shovel up the rotten apples that fall. The Utica area should have a half dozen more Larry Tanoury Jr's.
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Post by dgriffin on Jan 26, 2010 9:41:01 GMT -5
I haven't been thinking this story is about Larry. At this point, I'm not sure what this story is about, but certainly the DA dropping the charges is interesting. This morning the Utica OD has caught up with the part of the story where the judge says the letter's allegations are true. However, the DA says there were unprovable illegal actions, and then surprisingly, McNamara is quoted as saying, "“Honestly, I hope this allows Mr. Hendricks to be able to go back and do his job, because clearly this was a distraction,” McNamara said. “This needs to end now. It’s unprovable, and we need to let Mr. Hendricks and Mr. Barry get on with their lives.”" That certainly sounds like absolution to me.
So what is this about? A young pol sees an opportunity sitting in a driveway one afternoon and snaps a photo on his cell phone and thenplays with the idea and maybe actually does take it to the legislative board chairman for whatever reasons? A disbarred attorney and his political friend use the incident in a letter to cast aspersion on the chairman? The DA's office, which in most accounts appears rather slipshod, starts down the road, makes a hard left and finds itself backtracking? Mostly what I hear in this story is about a young man who doesn't know when to speak and when not to, but I suppose that is his political charm. It also appears to be his undoing.
Frankly, I don't find any of the characters to be very appealing in this story. And even though I could find similar happenings elsewhere in the state, including my now home area, I have to say I don't miss Utica very much. Come to think of it, I never have.
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Post by stoney on Jan 26, 2010 9:48:22 GMT -5
Yes, the OD's story today was much more informative than yesterday's, probably due to it being a quick "breaking news" story without all the particulars. Daley definitely made Hendricks come out smelling like a rose.
Now, who's going to pay for all the lawyers & court time?
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?? I think the State Attorney General's Office should be called in to look at the Insight House deal! Something stinks at 800 Park Ave.