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Post by kim on Dec 15, 2009 11:01:30 GMT -5
Ummm. For what it's worth...back in another lifetime when I spent probably more time than I should have in bars, I'd stay at bars in Utica until 4am, and yes, we'd be drinking. These bars had plywood cutouts perfectly fit for the windows, so at closing time they'd be put up so nobody could tell that there were still people drinking in the bars. So...even though closing time in Utica is 2am, chances are good that people are out in the bars much later than that, assuming things haven't changed, and I doubt that has changed. :-)
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Post by stoney on Dec 15, 2009 11:23:21 GMT -5
Hi, Kim!! Where have you been???
Did anybody notice the OD did not cover this story??? What's up with that? Usually they have the same stories as WKTV.
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Post by Swimmy on Dec 15, 2009 11:37:58 GMT -5
Hey Kim! Where have you been?! Lost like me?
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Post by Swimmy on Dec 15, 2009 11:38:47 GMT -5
stoney, I have no idea why the od didn't cover the story. Maybe it's for similar reasons it tried to avoid having to report donna's son having a dwi arrest?
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Post by stoney on Dec 15, 2009 11:58:59 GMT -5
Swimmy, that was in the paper. Andrew Donovan, right?
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Post by lucy on Dec 15, 2009 12:08:43 GMT -5
Even if this was to get approved it doesn't mean that all bars would be open until 4am. Maybe they will only keep them open until 4am during the summer, or during the holidays. For instance I went to Albany for a girls night out the bar we went to closed at 3am not at 4. I think having the option would be nice. I can't tell you what bar owners are thinking, but I'm sure that they would love to just have this option. They may not stay open until 4am, but just having the option would be nice.
Let me also say this when I go out to Syracuse, Albany, NYC you see taxi cabs everywhere! Where are they in Utica or Rome? Honestly from 1:30am - 4am they could be around the area ready to bring people home from the bars. The taxi cabs in Syracuse wait right outside the bars for people to jump right in.
I will be 30 next year and let me tell you I don't go out all the time, but the times that I do it would be nice for the bars to be open a little longer.
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Post by stoney on Dec 15, 2009 12:11:44 GMT -5
"Let me also say this when I go out to Syracuse, Albany, NYC you see taxi cabs everywhere! "
That's because they have things to DO in those cities! There's nothing to do around here BUT go to bars, & that's sad.
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Post by lucy on Dec 15, 2009 12:15:03 GMT -5
So if we had other things to offer than it would make a world of difference for the bars to stay open later?
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Post by stoney on Dec 15, 2009 12:20:16 GMT -5
That's what I said in one of my posts. But to keep the bars open JUST for drinking is just asking for trouble. If we had plays, concerts, the arts etc. to attend that late at night, I could understand it.
How are you doing, Lucy? Haven't seen you in awhile!
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Post by Clipper on Dec 15, 2009 12:31:44 GMT -5
Heck Stoney, if they legalize marijuana it won't have much effect on the public anyhow. It won't be long until the only place you can smoke is in your bathroom with the exhaust fan running. Government has made sure that they intervened as far into one's private life with the smoking thing as they possibly can. Now that they have restricted smoking and have raised the tobacco taxes to a ridiculously high rate, they are suffering from not allowing smoking in public places. Hang on to your shorts. Alcohol taxes are probably next, and then fast food taxes.
As for bars being open 24/7, that is legal now in some places. I was stationed in Key West Florida for a short time while awaiting my gunnersmate school when I first joined the Navy back in the 60's. Bars there were open 24/7 on Boca Chica Key. They would lock the door, have the patrons pick up their feet while they mopped the floors, and then open the door again. Gotta think that was cause for some multi day binges, haha.
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Post by stoney on Dec 15, 2009 12:35:35 GMT -5
" Now that they have restricted smoking and have raised the tobacco taxes to a ridiculously high rate, they are suffering from not allowing smoking in public places."
Good point, Clip.
"As for bars being open 24/7, that is legal now in some places. I was stationed in Key West Florida for a short time while awaiting my gunnersmate school when I first joined the Navy back in the 60's. Bars there were open 24/7 on Boca Chica Key."
But Key West is a tourist destination; people are out at all hours doing all kinds of cool stuff. Besides, it might be 24/7 in homage to Hemingway! lol!
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Post by Swimmy on Dec 15, 2009 12:41:41 GMT -5
Yes, stoney, it was, but only after every media outlet in a tri-county area covered the story a week before it appeared in the od.
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Post by stoney on Dec 15, 2009 12:43:02 GMT -5
Oh, really? I didn't know.
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Post by kim on Dec 15, 2009 15:02:48 GMT -5
Hello!
Where have I been? Oh. Here and there. I dunno. Floating around cyberspace. ;-) I will try to post more here...sorry! Bad me! :-o
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Post by clarencebunsen on Dec 15, 2009 16:42:12 GMT -5
If I remember correctly (fallible memory again) the time lag from Andrews incident to publication was a little over a day, Saturday night to Monday morning.
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