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Post by dgriffin on Sept 12, 2009 21:37:33 GMT -5
They really knew how to write a tear-jerker back then!  |
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Post by lbreitkopf on Jun 17, 2014 7:58:29 GMT -5
Any chance for renewing or reposting the material from "windsweptpress"? The links are dead and I'd love to read the material they contain. My grandfather was probably a short-term resident of St. Vincent's in the early 19-teens and I'm looking for anything that might lead to knowing for sure. I am including a link to a photograph labeled "Carl K. Frey Photo, Utica, NY". My maternal grandfather (Samuel Vincent Anzalone) was seated at the front left of the table.
The photo is available at this link:
www.dropbox.com/s/7xax571y8pc77pi/Utica%20Home-Grampa%20Anzalone.jpgat photo
Lona Carr Breitkopf
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Post by dave on Jun 30, 2014 22:28:43 GMT -5
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Post by dave on Jun 30, 2014 22:40:10 GMT -5
And here is the photo of Grandpa Anzalone: (The resolution on this looks fine, so if you can point him out, I'll try enlarge him.)  |
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Post by kit on Dec 21, 2014 9:07:58 GMT -5
Dave... do you have any history of the old "Utica Orphan Asylum" that was eventually turned into the 'Music Building' of Munsen Williams Proctor? It's the building at 316 Genesee St. that used to be between Fountain Elms and the 'new' MWPAI museum that was built in the 60s. My great great uncle died there at 2 years old back in 1855.
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Post by clarencebunsen on Dec 21, 2014 15:23:51 GMT -5
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Post by dave on Dec 21, 2014 18:41:04 GMT -5
Kit, The old Utica Orphan Asylum was on the corner of the Parkway (Pleasant) and Genesee Street, diagonally across from the bowling alley (or whatever is there now.) You'll find a number of references to the Utica Orphan Asylum here on the forum. Look at the Benjamin Jewett thread (he donated the land) on page 2 of the Pipeline to History board. Here's a direct link: clipper220.proboards.com/thread/2810/benjamin-jewettHere are a couple of excerpts: Jon Hynes wrote on: Aug 26, 2009 at 11:22am Quote like Post Options Post by jon hynes on Aug 26, 2009 at 11:22am Eleemosynary and Charitable Institutions From History of Oneida County Vol 1. by Henry Cookinham Chapter XXVIII Transcribed by B. McCulloch Utica Orphan Asylum - In 1826 a society was formed among the influential ladies in Utica known as the Female Society of Industry, the object being to procure funds for the establishment of an orphan asylum. A charter was granted January 7, 1830, and in the same year a building was procured on the northeast corner of John and Catharine Streets. Later the establishment was removed to the southeast corner of Chancellor Square. In 1842 a citizens’ meeting was held in the interest of the institution, and it was decided to apply for an amendment to the charter by which children, who had one parents, might be accepted at the asylum. In 1845 the asylum was on Broadway, and in 1846 the lot was purchased at 312 Genesee Street, upon which a building was constructed and the institution was located there until 1861. Benjamin F. Jewett donated three acres of land on the corner of Genesee and Pleasant Streets and a new building was constructed on this lot in 1861 and upon this lot the building now stands. The institution has received from time to time gifts by will and otherwise, until it has a substantial endowment. The last gift of importance was that of Mrs. Lydia Francis, which was received by the institution through the will of Mrs. Francis, and amounted to about $65,000. With a portion of this fund a hospital separate from the other building was erected, and was completed and occupied about a year since. The last report of the institution, which is for the year 1911, shows that 17 of the older boys are in attendance at the public schools; it also shows that the children of the institution are instructed in kindergarten work, in Sunday school, physical exercises, and at time the older boys have received military drill. The girls are instructed in cooking and sewing. The balance sheet shows that the receipts during the last year were $29,069.67, and the disbursements slightly over $600 less than the receipts. GUEST WROTE: I volunteered at Children's Hospital in 8th grade--that was part of Faxton, right? Well, my earliest memories of Utica was in Oct. 1958 when we moved there. I was almost 5. Dave Griffin wrote on May 24, 2009 at 7:52pm May 22, 2009 at 2:55pm ninamh said: Yes, as far as I know. As a kid I never for sure knew their relationship. I have to assume that Children's got crowded during the Polio epidemic in the 1950's, but it must have been built before that. Possibly as a Soldiers Hospital. The summer of '57 when I carried papers through there, it was not very crowded, or so I remember. Here's a quote from their website: "Faxton Hospital evolved from the union of two facilities, Children's Hospital and Rehabilitation Center (an outgrowth of the old Utica Orphan Asylum on Genesee Street, established in 1830), and Faxton Hospital, established by Theodore S. Faxton on Sunset Avenue in 1875." The quote goes on into nonsense: "Faxton Hospital came into being on January 1, 1989 when Faxton Hospital and Children's Hospital merged." More at: tinyurl.com/qh2ojc Also found this: www.windsweptpress.com/temptemp/asylum.jpg |
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Post by kit on Dec 22, 2014 16:58:42 GMT -5
Thanks for re-posting Jon Hynes' info about the Utica Orphan Asylum. I have the history of it but am interested only from 1854 to 1856 when it was on Genesee St. and some of my ancestors lived there. A lot of history in that building. After the asylum moved, it was where Thomas R. Proctor and his wife Maria Williams lived, calling it 'Proctor Gardens' until they died. Then it became the Music Building of the Institute. Here's a photo taken by Russell T. Rhoades in the 1940s. On the left is Fountain Elms and on the right is the Music Bldg/Proctor Gardens/Utica Orphan Asylum. Attachments:
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Post by dave on Jul 14, 2016 20:55:30 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2016 9:42:46 GMT -5
Thanks for re-posting Jon Hynes' info about the Utica Orphan Asylum. I have the history of it but am interested only from 1854 to 1856 when it was on Genesee St. and some of my ancestors lived there. A lot of history in that building. After the asylum moved, it was where Thomas R. Proctor and his wife Maria Williams lived, calling it 'Proctor Gardens' until they died. Then it became the Music Building of the Institute. Here's a photo taken by Russell T. Rhoades in the 1940s. On the left is Fountain Elms and on the right is the Music Bldg/Proctor Gardens/Utica Orphan Asylum. Wow that is beautiful. Would have been nice to be alive back then and have at least some of the Proctor's money. I missed this thread somehow. |
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Post by kit on Jul 16, 2016 6:07:35 GMT -5
When the Utica Orphan Asylum, which was next door to Fountain Elms, moved to their new location at Pleasant and Genesee streets in 1861 (which later became the Children's Hospital) the old asylum building became private housing for next 30 years. Then, James and Helen Munson Williams who had built and lived in Fountain Elms next door, bought the building and remodeled it in the Edwardian Style and gave it to their daughter Maria (pronounced 'muh-RY-uh') and her new husband Thomas Redfield Proctor as a wedding gift in 1893. They named it 'Proctor Gardens' and lived there the rest of their lives. T.R.Proctor died in 1920 and Maria Williams Proctor died in 1935. The building became the Music Building of the Munson Williams Proctor Institute and remained until 1960 when it was razed to make room for the new Museum. Part of the original foundation remains under the walkway that joins the museum with Fountain Elms.
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Post by dave on Jul 16, 2016 8:13:01 GMT -5
Thanks, Kit. That explains the relationship of the various buildings.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2016 9:02:06 GMT -5
When the Utica Orphan Asylum, which was next door to Fountain Elms, moved to their new location at Pleasant and Genesee streets in 1861 (which later became the Children's Hospital) the old asylum building became private housing for next 30 years. Then, James and Helen Munson Williams who had built and lived in Fountain Elms next door, bought the building and remodeled it in the Edwardian Style and gave it to their daughter Maria (pronounced 'muh-RY-uh') and her new husband Thomas Redfield Proctor as a wedding gift in 1893. They named it 'Proctor Gardens' and lived there the rest of their lives. T.R.Proctor died in 1920 and Maria Williams Proctor died in 1935. The building became the Music Building of the Munson Williams Proctor Institute and remained until 1960 when it was razed to make room for the new Museum. Part of the original foundation remains under the walkway that joins the museum with Fountain Elms. That is the reason why that old foundation looked odd to me. If I am looking at the right thing it would be in the area of the Terrace Café. |
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Post by kit on Jul 17, 2016 8:27:20 GMT -5
I'm not sure Alan, but I believe part of the foundation of the original building is below the left side of the current museum as you look at it from Genesee St. Perhaps old architectural drawings would show it.
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