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Post by dgriffin on May 13, 2009 7:21:00 GMT -5
A sister thread to "Old News." Photos, maps, etc. of old Utica.
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Post by dgriffin on May 13, 2009 7:23:52 GMT -5
 The long lost Harrison Gilmore John Street Fire House Now I see where No. 2's home was before Elizabeth St. And was the R.C. Academy must have been the Assumption Academy. My father went to Assumption. |
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Post by dgriffin on May 13, 2009 7:24:14 GMT -5
Here's my grandparents house, one up from Steuben and Louisa, on the west side of Steuben, right next to what would become a bar.  |
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Post by dgriffin on May 13, 2009 7:25:59 GMT -5
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Post by fiona on May 13, 2009 22:27:33 GMT -5
these maps are beautiful, I love them. They are true works of art and provide a physical presence, something beyond just space and time, to our work. They are necessary because a person just browsing the thread would not necessarily understand the space our players moved in, the boundaries of their existance; where things, events, happened. Utica was/is a very self contained city. I never thought about posting them and Dave and John, I am so glad you did. Not only do they show a world that is gone, but a world that is very much with us today.
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Post by dgriffin on May 24, 2009 18:38:27 GMT -5
dave: I sent a copy to your e mail. the whole thing reads: from the id. typepad.com/shared/image.html?/photos/uncatagorized/2007/12/31 the arcade building.jpg. I got it! Is the Arcade on the same site as the Boston Store (was)? I tried to look it up on the NPL maps we've been viewing. Couldn't find it. By the way, in 1883, the block of Genesee St. from Grace Church up the hill was all private homes. Down to Bleecker, too. Guess the center of commerce was down on Broad St. |
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Post by fiona on May 26, 2009 11:27:19 GMT -5
Dave: I think you are correct about the location of the Arcade and if you look at the pic you will see on the far right hand side a bit of a building which looks like the Old Oneida National Bank. Jon sent me a link to post the pic and I am going to try and do that tonite. I found an old pic from a calender that I will send to you. It shows the Griffen and Hoxie Bldg behind the OD building about 1930. Be well, Fiona
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Post by dgriffin on May 27, 2009 2:42:15 GMT -5
If I remember my Busy Corner geography, I think that's the Oneida National building on the far left of the 1940's photo that forms the flag of the "Cliipper's Busy Corner" Forum, at the top of this (and every) page.
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Post by jon hynes on May 27, 2009 9:18:03 GMT -5
If I remember my Busy Corner geography, I think that's the Oneida National building on the far left of the 1940's photo that forms the flag of the "Cliipper's Busy Corner" Forum, at the top of this (and every) page.  Arcade Building and Munson Building (Oneida National Bank)Putting it all together the Arcade was where the Boston Store was. To the South, Oneida National Bank Building, then Daw's Drug Store. |
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Post by jon hynes on May 27, 2009 9:23:13 GMT -5
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Post by Clipper on May 27, 2009 9:44:30 GMT -5
Ah the memories of hiding from the wind and snow inside Dawe's. It was a small store and always packed with people browsing about while waiting for the bus. One would have to wonder what the ratio of customers to loiterers was on cold and windy days, haha.
I was just trying to remember. Didn't Oneida National also have an entrance off of Bleecker St. next to Dawes.
What I remember most about that bank is the wonderful old clock. We used to watch that clock and the clock tower at the old City Hall when reading our bus schedule.
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Post by chris on May 27, 2009 10:08:34 GMT -5
I remember Daw's, across the street at one time was the carmel corn, I can still smell the popcorn, ThomMcanns I believe at one time also. Every Monday everyone went "downtown". If we walked down instead of taking the bus, we always went throu the Grotto at St. John's then a pit stop across the street at the Hotel to use the ladies room. ;D
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Post by fiona on May 27, 2009 12:44:11 GMT -5
I would say the photo above was taken around 1900. Notice the trolly block in the foreground with the wheel balanced upon the stanchion? Way off on the fartop right hand side of the Munson Building is the Oneida Indian carving. You can barely see it. The OCHS owns that today. I think Daw's Drugs came along quitea bit later.
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Post by dgriffin on May 27, 2009 16:12:32 GMT -5
When I lived near Faxton Hospital as a kid, I'd wait in the winter for the bus inside Daw's back door on Bleecker St., where the store personnel never seemed to mind people coming inside out of the snow and cold. I don't remember a Bleecker St. entrance for the bank, but then I never went in the bank as a kid. I did use the Bleecker St. entrance for the Boston Store, however, which I entered often enough in high school, after classes at UCA. Chris, your pit stop would have been at the Hotel Hamilton, I think. My older brother tells me the UFD gave St. John's a hard time about candles in the grotto and so now they have electric bulb fake candles. You put a quarter in (or however much) and it glows cheerily while your prayers speed their way to heaven. He suspects the candles are wired to the door switch so that when you leave they immediately go out, to save electricity.  |
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Post by Clipper on May 27, 2009 17:57:15 GMT -5
You are right Dave. The Dawes folks never chased anyone out that was waiting inside for a bus. It just got to be an accepted practice. Boy, was the busy corner a windy place in winter. It was like being in downtown Chicago.
Downtown was a wonderful and fun place to be. Especially during the holiday shopping season. My grandfather played Santa at Bergers toyland for a couple of years. I even told my dad when I was about 4, that Santa sounded a lot like Grandpa, LOL.
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