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Post by Clipper on Apr 23, 2009 11:34:02 GMT -5
We need to gamble on "inexperience" in Albany as well as in all other areas of government, to save our sorry butts. People like Larry Jr, that are not experienced, and that have no ingrained loyalty to the party norm are what is needed to turn government around and give it back to the people.
"Experience" has turned out to be a cuss word when it comes to politics. " Experience" in politics has become synonymous with "collusion" and "patronage."
New blood free of connections, and not indebted to anyone politically, is what is needed. I would take my chances on the inexperienced screwing something up while making an honest attempt to make things better, rather than to take my chances on those imbedded in office, kept there by party bosses and influence peddlers. The "inexperienced" surely could not screw things up any worse than the experienced have, since the decline of the integrity our political system on a local, and state level.
People like Larry Tanoury Jr. that are sincerely dedicated, however naive that may seem, are what is needed to bring the government back to those that should be running it. Bring the government OF the people back to government BY the people.
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Post by rodwilson on Apr 23, 2009 11:53:44 GMT -5
No doubt! "Inexperience" allows for a new thought process. New and creative ways to look at and solve problems. He mentioned that we were outside the box, heck we don't even have a box!
Larry seems like a great guy and dedicated. I have NO problem with the new perspective part.
It's this very message that we need to get out to bring out to candidates. 'We will support you and if you're about the people, you'll be just fine!"
We will be out all summer engaging and educating voters. Supporting the ones that have done right and campaigning STRONGLY against those that haven't. Based solely and truly on MERIT. The political system here is broken and vulnerable and we will exploit that. While we like Larry and some things some of his party mates have projected and he has party mates that simply need to go. We will cross party lines and we will go out and find candidates to support if need be. This running unopposed nonsense is going to stop.
Just to clear up any notions or concerns, I'm not running for anything. This gives me the ability to be honest and to speak the truth. Someone said in reference to us that they hope we wouldn't be sucked in by the corruption. They've got nothing I want. But we've got a whole lot of what the people want!
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Post by Clipper on Apr 23, 2009 12:07:30 GMT -5
Your last two sentences speak volumes to me. I have to run. I have 75 degrees and sunshine, and I am "wasting" daylight, sitting here in front of the computer. I will catch ya later Rod, and once again, welcome. I think it is going to be a very productive relationship for us all. Have a great day!
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Post by dgriffin on Apr 23, 2009 19:45:51 GMT -5
I wonder what CountryGal thinks? She's a local farmer. Will she have to give up pesticides?
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Post by rodwilson on Apr 23, 2009 19:59:06 GMT -5
I wonder what CountryGal thinks? She's a local farmer. Will she have to give up pesticides? The law we had drafted up is based on that of the one used in Westchester County. It's really designed for residential communities. If she was to apply, all she'd be required to do is let her neighbors know beforehand and put up a sing on the property depending on neighbor proximity. Based on the potential damage that the pesticides can cause, it's well worth it. I have a friend who is cancer survivor from sprayed pesticides and I have 2 boys with unrelated asthma. This is fair and just. It's just about being safe and neighborly. This is mostly in reference to folks like TruGreen Chemlawn who apply it in neighborhoods for nothing other than profit and vanity. There are way better methods and non-toxic options. More than half of the products they use are banned or restricted in other countries. But I'm def interested in her perspective. |
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Post by dgriffin on Apr 23, 2009 22:15:30 GMT -5
I'll let CountryGal speak for herself, but I understand that agriculture is one heck of a large part of Oneida County's economy. So, implementing laws meant for Westchester seems destined to meet with some dissent in Central New York. I would think.
We've been through some of the controversy here in Ulster County, on the eastern edge of the Catskills, about 100 miles north of New York City.
Rod, I've only skimmed your site. Is the draft you've spoken of on the website?
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Post by rodwilson on Apr 23, 2009 22:33:28 GMT -5
Hey Dave. I'll have to scan a hard copy of the draft I have but I can't get to it tonight. But I do have a FAQS pdf that can answer some questions. www.mvgreen.org/docs/FAQS_About_Neighbor_Notification.pdfLike I said, it primarily deals with lawn and shrub applications. What was it that caused all of the controversy? |
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Post by rodwilson on Apr 23, 2009 22:37:05 GMT -5
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Post by rodwilson on Apr 23, 2009 23:01:03 GMT -5
The reason it didn't pass was money. CE's gotta have that ride!
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Post by dgriffin on Apr 24, 2009 7:26:15 GMT -5
Thanks for the FAQ, Rod. I didn't understand your last post, re didn't pass and CE.
I don't have the information at hand, but my local county, Ulster, did in fact opt in to the Neighbor Notification state law, but in such a manner as to make it farily useless, if I remember correctly. I'll look for the information, but I believe the version passed in this county says only that notification is voluntary.
By the way, if you do find the draft, I'd like to see it.
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Post by rodwilson on Apr 24, 2009 8:32:55 GMT -5
It was drafted and presented by my County Legislator. There was much support for it to pass but it was killed in a "no action" vote due to cost concerns for enforcement. The CE is in regards to our County Exec tooling around in an new suv but can't seem to come up with funds for worthwhile projects. I don't expect this to cost the taxpayers a cent. The cost needs to be shifted to the applicators.
I haven't seen much about Ulster's version. I do know they tried a voluntary basis program for Erie County and the costs were way of line so they've since revised "recommendations" for program administration.
I'll have a digital copy of the draft posted later today.
Thanks
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Post by rodwilson on Apr 24, 2009 8:42:59 GMT -5
Actually Dave, I was able to more quickly locate theirs on line. www.mvgreen.org/docs/West.pdfI'll get our draft up when I get some time to scan it. |
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Post by frankcor on Apr 24, 2009 12:02:14 GMT -5
I bet our CE's SUV is bigger than your CE's SUV.
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Post by rodwilson on Apr 24, 2009 15:19:37 GMT -5
I bet our CE's SUV is bigger than your CE's SUV. I'll tell ya, for as much as the guy is screwing people out of good projects, OURS better have the biggest and best damn SUV ever made. On a more serious tip, I had a gentlemen post on our Facebook page about something we've been touching on a little bit but you guys seem to have better insight on it (I'm just a young 'un  ) "Louis Fraccola The elderly and the disabled of Utica and it's surrounding areas need your help. These individuals living in long-term care facilities (nursing homes), have been expected to meet thier personal needs on $50.00 a month. This amount was established in 1980 and has never been adjusted to meet the economy through out the years. It is our hope that bringing awareness to the PERSONAL NEEDS ALLOWANCE (PNA), the governing body of NYS will act swiftly to correct this injustice. It is imperative that we as residents of New York State recognize that our elderly and disabled citizens deserve our respect and the right to live their lives with dignity, for they have blazed many of the paths that we follow today. Let your elected officials know that we can no longer let our elderly and disabled citizens in long--term care facilities struggle to get by on a 1980 Personal Needs Allowance. Go to wwwNYPNA.com and let our elected officals know that this injutice must be corrected. " Thoughts? |
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Post by frankcor on Apr 24, 2009 15:52:37 GMT -5
When someone has insufficient funds to pay for nursing home costs but they require that level of care, eventually Medicaid (public assistance) steps in and starts paying the difference between the resources that person has and the costs of their care.
For example, assume an elderly person has pension and Social Security benefits totalling $1500/month coming in but the nursing home care costs greatly exceed that income. Medicaid pays the difference but the individual is permitted to keep $50 of their $1500 income each month to pay for personal items like snacks, gifts for grandchildren, etc.
Who is to say what's fair or not? The person's care includes room and board so their actual needs beyond that are pretty minimal. As far as their wants go ...
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