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Post by bobbbiez on Mar 4, 2009 22:20:36 GMT -5
 Dave, don't worry. You're not going to get rid of me that easy. This is not my first rodeo in Jamaica. I've been going there for many moons now and will till the good Lord summons me to the big Jamaica in the sky.  Actually, it's safer then taking any cruise. You couldn't pay me to get on a cruise ship with people some how falling over board or just plain coming up missing. Last year when my sister and I were sitting on our patio in Ocho Rios overlooking the ocean we were surprised to see so many boats taking off heading toward a cruise ship that was coming in to dock. They were searching for two people who supposedly fell over board. Four days later as another cruise ship was leaving port within an hour more search boats were heading out again to find another man who supposedly fall over board. So, I think I'll keep my two feet planted on the ground in beautiful Jamaica. Rumors always floating around but let me assure you most of those rumors are started by all the resorts in Jamaica, because they want you to stay, shop and use the activities on the resorts they support and brings them all the big bucks. I could tell you plenty of stories about the people who own the resorts and their dealings. Throughout my years of going there I have made many friends who I visit, spend a lot of time with and who live all over Jamaica. I spend very little time actually at the resort. I am a peoples person and started to go to Jamaica to see the land and meet its people. No matter where I've gone in Jamaica, and I do a lot of walking, I have never had any kind of problems with any kind of danger. Actually, I face more of that in my own area here in Utica.  From the very first time I set foot in Jamaica, the way I was welcomed and how good the people there treat me, I have made it my second home. If I could get all my kids to move there and bring the grandchildren, Jamaica would be my home.  So, relax Dave. I'll be back safe and sound to keep all you raving lunatics on your toes. ;D
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Post by dgriffin on Mar 4, 2009 23:26:22 GMT -5
I feel much better now, Bobbbiez. I didn't know you were such a seasoned traveler. And it's nice to know there are good people in Jamaica. Your theory about the resorts trashing the natives is believable. Makes sense. Have a great trip, and bring Frankcor back a native plant. A legal one.
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Post by bobbbiez on Mar 4, 2009 23:50:42 GMT -5
Dave, funny you would mentioned that. Was thinking about that myself.  Be very happy to plant, oops I mean, bring a plant home for Frankie, you and even Clipper. ;D Hey, don't tell customs, but do have a Jamaica plant sitting here on my night stand from my last trip. So hard to not pick up those big seeds when they're all there laying in front of a green-thumb person.
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Post by frankcor on Mar 5, 2009 6:50:55 GMT -5
I swear I learned everything I know from Clipper and Dave.
LOL wcup. You really know how to hurt a girl.
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Post by frankcor on Mar 5, 2009 6:53:20 GMT -5
Bobbbiez, just make sure that Jamaican plant isn't ganja, mon.
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Post by lilbump1980 on Mar 5, 2009 8:21:48 GMT -5
Well I forgot to mention one thing.. Trooper David Olney who arrested Sullivan. Is MR DWI KING... I can tell you for a fact. ( my friend was engaged to one of his trooper buddys) IS the KING of DWI.. He got caught a few times.. BUT always was let go.
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Post by gearofzanzibar on Mar 5, 2009 9:32:11 GMT -5
Well I forgot to mention one thing.. Trooper David Olney who arrested Sullivan. Is MR DWI KING... I can tell you for a fact. ( my friend was engaged to one of his trooper buddys) IS the KING of DWI.. He got caught a few times.. BUT always was let go. So there's a continuing pattern of official misconduct and corruption in the local law enforcement community? Color me surprised. |
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Post by lucy on Mar 5, 2009 10:27:30 GMT -5
Why would anyone be mad at the arresting officer??? NYS Troopers are suppose to be held at a higher standard. For crying out loud I have friends that don't drink and drive and that don't comitt crimes that would love to be a NYS Trooper but they were turned down. In all honesty I don't feel that sorry for any party involved.
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Post by lilbump1980 on Mar 5, 2009 11:37:08 GMT -5
I am not stating that i am mad at the arresting officer. But I am just saying he has been DRUNK and DRIVING many times and all his BUDDIES get him off .. dont even give him tickts. that ismy point. and now for him to arrest Mr Sullivan after he was at home for 3 hours.. Something IS NOT right
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Post by lucy on Mar 5, 2009 11:43:47 GMT -5
Sorry I missread what you wrote. I have a tendency of doing that. It sounds like they need to start weeding out the ones that are breaking the law.
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Post by bobbbiez on Mar 5, 2009 14:01:47 GMT -5
Gear, this whole topic is focused on an officer drinking while drinking and getting away with it by someone covering up the facts. Now, maybe I'm out of it but being a former long time bartender who sees things that are there, it's not just in the law enforcement field that this takes place. Besides the fact, I know just about anyone who drinks or drank in their younger days leaves the bar "legally" drunk. You don't have to be falling on your face to be classified as "legally" drunk today. Today, it only takes a few drinks in a short period of time one can be tested to be legally drunk. Many in "all professions", including myself which I'm not afraid to admit (when I was younger) were just as guilty and because someone knew someone else who could assist us out of a DWI were given our breaks whether by an officer or someone in the courts. "Many" were just not caught. All state "because he's an officer" that he should be more guilty then anyone else. I say the doctor or nurse or fireman or correctional personnel or judge or just a mother or father who holds the responsibilities of other lives in their hands and who were given their breaks are just as guilty. I can attest to this as fact and that it happens on a daily basis no matter where one lives, but yet I don't see big headlines in the news about them when finally caught. What I am seeing in the newspapers and here on the forum that some seems to be one sided and all are avoiding to see this problem happens over and over again and not just in the law enforcement field. If you're willing to attack one then be just as strong to attack all the other guilty parties including yourselves if you leave a bar knowing you can be guilty of a DWI "if" stopped. Gear, you gave a pretty broad and very unfair statement to all the good officers that do protect you and your family on a daily basis with, "so there's a continuing pattern of official misconduct and corruption in the local law enforcement community." Please give a constructive suggestion how you and others can correct what you see is wrong, so it won't "color others surprised."
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Post by gearofzanzibar on Mar 5, 2009 15:37:39 GMT -5
Gear, you gave a pretty broad and very unfair statement to all the good officers that do protect you and your family on a daily basis with, "so there's a continuing pattern of official misconduct and corruption in the local law enforcement community." What's unfair about my statement? Based on the evidence of the Sullivan case, and the behavior of Trooper Olney referenced above, my statement is factual in every respect. If you want to condone corruption, have at it. I just think the idea that all men are equal in the eyes of the law actually means something. You, obviously, disagree. Probably the best thing I can do is keep pointing out the double standards in this case. From the actual evidence that has been released, as incomplete as it is, it certainly looks like multiple members of the New York State Police need to be indicted for official misconduct and corruption. |
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Post by bobbbiez on Mar 5, 2009 16:52:36 GMT -5
Gear, obviously you can't read. Ya better go back to the very beginning of this topic and I'm positive you will see I was the first one to respond and where the hell do I condone his actions in any way? Not! As the story continued on the front pages in the OD, I was pointing out that it was getting pretty ridiculous. The man did not committed a homicide and some of the information the OD was printing had no relation to his case. Don't see that in any other arrest made for any DWI no matter who the offender is. Make examples of all, not just a few. I am someone no matter who does wrong will not defend their actions and am not afraid to state so publicly as I have done recently at a city meeting that did make the front page. But I am not a person who just pitches a bitch. I worked with those in power to find and correct the problems that we face and I suggest you, everyone, do the same. Here's a constructive suggestion for you, which I follow myself. The best thing you and others can do is report any wrong doings you "know" of to the proper authorities. This is the only way corruption in any department of government will cease. Don't come back and say it won't do any good because that will be a big fat excuse. No one is untouchable or unreachable. Having a new Governor in NYS now, proves me right. Hope to see you at the UPD/State Trooper's benefit game tonight at 7pm at the Utica Aud. My cell number is listed in the topic about the game. Call and come sit with us. Love to have ya. ;D
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Post by Clipper on Mar 6, 2009 1:14:14 GMT -5
Hmm. Talk about a "Hot topic". I may have to install additional cooling on my PC, LOL. Well, it will quiet down a little now until he goes to court again on the 17th. Kinda ironic, St. Patricks day, and the president of the Irish Fest won't be there, or at least most likely won't be drinking much green beer. I wonder if the judge did that on purpose. Oh well. Off to bed for this sore and crippled old goat. Catch ya'll tomorrow. God bless.
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Post by gearofzanzibar on Mar 6, 2009 1:42:27 GMT -5
I've been lucky to have little or no official interaction with police, other than a speeding ticket when I was 22, so reporting any corruption I witnessed would be a bit difficult.
I know they have a difficult job, and I empathize with the soul numbing grind of having to deal with the dregs of society, but the more details of the Sullivan "arrest" that emerge the more infuriated I get. We're supposed to be a nation of laws, not men.
I'm sure there's a perfectly reasonable explanation for how someone charged with DWI could blithely drive off from a traffic stop without the slightest consequence, spend a few hours safely ensconced in his home, and then meander on down to the State Police barracks four hours later to actually get arrested. Probably happens all the time.
And when the grand jury fails to indict, because the breathalyzer results are effectively useless because of that four hour delay, I'm sure there are those that will celebrate.
Hurray for justice.
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Dave, don't worry. You're not going to get rid of me that easy. This is not my first rodeo in Jamaica. I've been going there for many moons now and will till the good Lord summons me to the big Jamaica in the sky. 
