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Post by Disgusted-Daily on Nov 7, 2008 2:27:57 GMT -5
Although I didn't vote for him and don't care for some of his associations, views and policies I will agree with General Tommy Frank's latest interview on Hannity and Colmes on his thoughts that we should be blessed to live in a democracy and there will be instant change in loyalty to the President of the United States. Gen Tommy Frank in my mind is a great man and a great service to our country, he will put you at ease to hear him speak about the future. Understandably why he is a leader. Also good luck to the General with his "Salute to Service" Leadership Institute Museum opening on November 8. www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&streamingFormat=FLASH&referralObject=3179053&referralPlaylistId=playlistNow with that said, I have to ask if it is fair to say he is the first black man to become President? I mean his mother is 100% white. Does this make him decide when it is a good time to be black or white? I think it is unfair to both races for him to take either side. Wouldn't he be considered as mulatto? In any event I hope he does well for all Americans and can pull this country out of despair. I also hope that races will be able to get along and the blacks will no longer feel like the white man is oppressing them. It is now a fact that no matter what color or race you are everyone has the chance to be what ever you want to be in life as long as one makes the right choices in deciding which road to go down. It amazes me that news channels are still airing clips of racial hatred. I think we are beyond that. Obama is living proof. It seems like these news channels are trying to stir up the hatred from years ago, why? There is absolutely nothing we can do about the past, we can only work together in the future for a better quality of life for all mankind. I was hoping that this would all go away (other than a history book) while my son is still to young to have to grow up and live with the hatred and ideology of the races. God bless the United States of America! |
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Post by Disgusted-Daily on Nov 7, 2008 2:32:52 GMT -5
I think I put this in the wrong forum. Maybe National / World News would have been better. Maybe the power of be will change it.
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Post by Swimmy on Nov 7, 2008 6:53:44 GMT -5
Eh, 50-50. It's in the General Board, so it fits...
I like General Tommy Frank too. I think he's a great military leader and hit the nail on the head.
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Post by denise on Nov 7, 2008 7:34:41 GMT -5
I didn't vote for Obama either, but what can you do. He won the election. I think it will be fine; business as usual.
I would not consider Barack Obama to be a "black president" since his mother is 100% white. I would have to say that he's our "first bi-racial president". I don't know, maybe that doesn't sound as nice or as dramatic??
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Post by dgriffin on Nov 7, 2008 8:53:27 GMT -5
I didn't vote for Obama either, but what can you do. He won the election. I think it will be fine; business as usual. I would not consider Barack Obama to be a "black president" since his mother is 100% white. I would have to say that he's our "first bi-racial president". I don't know, maybe that doesn't sound as nice or as dramatic?? So, I'm not going to over-react to the Oba-mania I've been seeing on television for the past few days. Middle aged white women crying and hugging (each other, instead of trees) old black guys running in the streets... all the time shouting, "Yes, we can!" Well, I hope we can. CNN's Blitz Woofer lost what little objectivity he has yesterday during an interview of political operatives Donna Brazile and a Republican whose name I can't remember. Blitz practically swooned as he said, "everyone I meet is so enthusiastic about the new president and our new face to the world." I guess CNN calls this news reporting.  |
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Post by Clipper on Nov 7, 2008 9:01:27 GMT -5
Yes, he is the first "bi-racial" president. Kennedy was Irish, and ALL of our presidents have an ethnic background of one kind or another. Nationality has never played any important part in an election unless it involved a minority. Nobody gave a damn about the pedigree of Reagan, or Gerald Ford. It worked for Obama in the campaign, but now the campaign is over. The last time, previous to this election season, that ethnicity played a part, was when Joe Lieberman was on the ticket, as a Jew.
Now it is time for him to "pay the piper." If he indeed was elected by the blacks and those sympathetic to the cause of blacks, then he OWES them. If he doesn't live up to the expectations of those people of race, he will simply be one more political hypocrite to be listed in a history of many that went before him.
I suspect he was elected because 1) he is young, 2) he is charismatic, 3) he is 1/2 black, 4)people associated McCain with 4 more years of Bush's crap, 5) he was the lesser of two evils in many people's eyes.
NOW the election is over, and he will have to wake up in January to the realism of having won and election based on all the above listed factors. That will be the day when all the limelight is gone, and the overwhelming task of fulfilling not only the promises he made, but the task of leading the greatest country in the world. THAT is going to take more than being black, that is going to take more than being young and charismatic. I can only hope that his LACK OF LEADERSHIP EXPERIENCE doesn't leave us at the mercy of despicable pains in the ass like Pelosi, Kennedy, Kerry, Harry Reid, Hillary, and others that will want to guide the direction of our great country, and may have ideas of utilizing his inexperience to further THIER OWN agendas.
I am actually looking forward to seeing what he can do to undo some of the damage done by Bush in his last term. Mostly with the diplomatic damage and loss of the confidence and support of many of our allies. As president elect, he is no longer the negative, arrogant and nasty person that spent the campaign making witty snipes at his opponent. He IS a brilliant young man. He IS a breath of fresh air. I wish him the best and only hope that any misgivings I have with his experience level, will be dispelled by those that he surrounds himself with. It will be interesting to see what sort of activists he brings with him to the white house.
He has an enormous task ahead, as would anyone taking over in the light of what is going on in our country. I wish him well.
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Post by dgriffin on Nov 7, 2008 9:20:33 GMT -5
Regarding a comparison of Obama's future actions with those of Bush. Leaving the war in Iraq aside to avoid argument, I'm not sure I had any great differences with Bush's foreign policy. So, if Obama changes our foreign policy, I would probably not agree with him. And I don't think "attitude" or "smoothness" or public speaking ability makes any difference when you're staring down each other's barrels with a guy like Putin or the other world criminals we have to deal with.  |
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Post by Clipper on Nov 7, 2008 10:49:00 GMT -5
I supported Bush in regard to the war, but did not support his attitudes on occasion and certainly believe he did our image serious damage on the world screen, and alienated some of our allies.
He remained a stern and determined leader, and stood his ground. I am glad that he has stood his ground in the war on terror and on issues concerning Iraq. I just can't support his sometimes arrogant, "I am president, I will do what I want, so kiss my ass" attitude.
There are countries that can benefit from healing the wounds, and then there are countries like France, that have historically taken from us without gratitude and can remain alienated without impact on our daily lives.
In all fairness, Bush has had to be on the defensive against the BS from the dems from day one. Actually I blame the democrats directly and completely for SOME of Bush's arrogance and defensive posturing. Had the dems accepted the fact that Bush was elected over Gore, and fell in line with the business of running our country instead of seeking revenge for 8 years, we might not be in quite such a serious condition now. Bush might have had more time to accomplish his goals instead of having to battle within our own government every day of his life.
Hopefully all that crap is behind us, and as I said in a post yesterday, maybe Obama will simply tell Pelosi and Reid to go sit down and shut up, and focus on issues, not partisan politics.
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Post by denise on Nov 7, 2008 11:36:22 GMT -5
Hopefully all that crap is behind us, and as I said in a post yesterday, maybe Obama will simply tell Pelosi and Reid to go sit down and shut up, and focus on issues, not partisan politics. That would be a beautiful thing! I have a feeling that Obama may just do that. He's certainly not a stupid man, and obviously a smart man would say and do whatever he had to in order to get elected. Once in office, it could be a totally different ball of wax. |
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Post by dgriffin on Nov 7, 2008 15:06:52 GMT -5
... obviously a smart man would say and do whatever he had to in order to get elected. Once in office, it could be a totally different ball of wax. Of course, Obama will want to get his programs passed by the House and Senate. The games never end. |
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Post by lucy on Nov 7, 2008 16:52:06 GMT -5
Ok I must say the media needs to stop giving Oprah attention and credit for getting Obama elected. Today there was a headline is Oprah turning red states blue? Please give me a break. Ohhh now I want a kit-kat bar.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2008 17:50:02 GMT -5
I supported Bush in regard to the war, but did not support his attitudes on occasion and certainly believe he did our image serious damage on the world screen, and alienated some of our allies. He remained a stern and determined leader, and stood his ground. I am glad that he has stood his ground in the war on terror and on issues concerning Iraq. I just can't support his sometimes arrogant, "I am president, I will do what I want, so kiss my ass" attitude. There are countries that can benefit from healing the wounds, and then there are countries like France, that have historically taken from us without gratitude and can remain alienated without impact on our daily lives. In all fairness, Bush has had to be on the defensive against the BS from the dems from day one. Actually I blame the democrats directly and completely for SOME of Bush's arrogance and defensive posturing. Had the dems accepted the fact that Bush was elected over Gore, and fell in line with the business of running our country instead of seeking revenge for 8 years, we might not be in quite such a serious condition now. Bush might have had more time to accomplish his goals instead of having to battle within our own government every day of his life. Hopefully all that crap is behind us, and as I said in a post yesterday, maybe Obama will simply tell Pelosi and Reid to go sit down and shut up, and focus on issues, not partisan politics. Are you kidding me? The Dems after 9/11 gave Bush anything that he wanted, including Iraq. That was Bush's game plan & the Dems gave him the ball. He's the one that screwed it up. The GOP also had control of Congress for 6 of Bush's years as prez. Bush's undoing was his own fault & the cabinet that he surrounded himself with. People like Condoleeza Rice that couldn't find her way of her own backyard, let alone the world stage. I think that many of Bush's ideas were well intended. But, he was too inattentive & was too willing to hand over policy decisions too people like Cheney that had THEIR own agendas. |
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Post by Clipper on Nov 7, 2008 17:59:16 GMT -5
That is a crock. The democrats never got over the fact that Gore lost the election, and then when they ran that bonehead Kerry, it just thickened their discontent when HE lost also.
What the democrats gave to Bush, they denied doing so during the campaign and blamed all the worlds troubles on Bush and the Republican party, but that is okay. If you are a democrat, I would not expect you to laud Bush's accomplishments or admit to the crap he took in the last 4 years from spiteful pains in the ass like Pelosi.
That is one reason that I register as an independent and vote my conscience rather than a party line.
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Post by Disgusted-Daily on Nov 7, 2008 21:17:23 GMT -5
I agree. After 9/11 everyone in the country wanted payback. A payback that Bush warned that it would not be a easy or quick war. Nobody cared. War we got.
Now we go to war and the Dems decide they want to fight a war from the far left. It doesn't work. Soldiers die.
Now the Dems having been running the house for the last 2-yrs and are at fault for our financial break down.
But I guess it will be easier to just keep blaming Bush. How about some praise to Bush for no more attacks on American soil since 9/11.
Some people need to stop watching all those Michael Moore hog wash conspiracy movies.
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Post by Disgusted-Daily on Nov 7, 2008 21:23:06 GMT -5
Bottom line is we need to stop with all the blame. Bush is history and Obama is the new leader. Hopefully we can all get along and he will do the job he was elected to do for America.
Obama better pull through because he has more eyes watching him than all the Presidents put together.
Good luck obama, I would not want to be in the President's shoes for the next 4-yrs.
God bless our America!
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