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Post by dan on Oct 2, 2008 22:20:11 GMT -5
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Post by gearofzanzibar on Oct 3, 2008 8:37:20 GMT -5
You think that's a rebuttal? It looks more like an indictment.
The area's overall number of jobs, population, and median income are in freefall. The only thing going up is the percentage of government and taxpayer funded jobs.
Arcuri's 2006 "Jobs Plan" has been an unmitigated disaster by any objective measure.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2008 19:55:18 GMT -5
And where has the "Window King" been? Let's see. During the past few years we have lost GAFB, G.E., Chicago Pneumatic, Bosserts, Mele's, & a few other employers too numerous to mention. With a grand total job loss of close to 10,000. How come the Window King didn't take our esteemed 20 yr. congressman Sherwood Boehlert to task for this area's economy going down the toilet during his watch with one of his paid smear advertisments disguised as a questionnaire? So now we have a freshman congressman in Arcuri being blamed for the mess we are in? Gimme a break. If the "Window King's" ad wasen't so ludicrous it would be laughable. There's plenty of blame to go around, but the fault isn't Arcuri's for the mess we are in. How is Arcuri supposed to fix the incompetence, & wishy washy political antics of his predesesor Boehlert in just 2 years? Oh, & the "Window King" claims that the ads aren't politically motivated. Yeeaa. If you believe that statement, I have a nice bridge that I would like to sell you.
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Post by dan on Oct 3, 2008 20:13:16 GMT -5
"Oh, & the "Window King" claims that the ads aren't politically motivated. Yeeaa."
Politically motivated or not it's not the OD's place to come running to Mikes defense. If Arcuri wants to take out a full page rebuttal I say go ahead. Even if he wants to request an interview to set the record straight as he sees it, then fine. But for the OD to arbitrarily try to debunk one of their advertisers is nuts. If they feel the ad is not accurate then decline the ad and it's profit.
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Post by clarencebunsen on Oct 3, 2008 21:33:30 GMT -5
They have declined ads in the past for a variety of reasons, but in the case of political ads, if it is questionable I would prefer that they err on the side of running the ad .
The news department The news department has shown some independence by questioning an ad from someone who has spent a lot of advertising dollars over the years. It's a tougher call than critiquing an ad from a politician who won't spend a dime after Nov 4th.
The Window King is certainly making use of his right to freedom of expression. I may not agree with what he says but will defend to the death his right to say it.
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Post by Clipper on Oct 4, 2008 7:31:44 GMT -5
Exactly Clarence. Even when I worked at the OD there was ALWAYS a Dudrack Window ad in the paper somewhere. He damn sure has earned to right to post a paid ad and the freedom of speech to say what he likes, and if the newspaper doesn't agree, they can post a disclaimer assuming no responsibility for it's content.
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Post by Swimmy on Oct 4, 2008 8:11:35 GMT -5
Arcuri may not be able to fix 20+ yrs of corruption in 2. But he has not made much of an attempt at anything. He promised to settle the disputes between OIN and the local governments. Instead: - He has yet to call the Oneidas to the negotiation table for serious talks about settling these issues. No matter what you feel (you all know how I feel) it is something that can be settled with real negotiations!
- He tried a sneaky and unprofessional backdoor politicking move of trying to strip the BIA of its funding for 6 months in a manner that would have prevented any debate or notice to anyone until after the bill was approved.
- Instead of promoting a real attempt to reach a settlement (he was elected long before the BIA's decision in March 2008), he encouraged the onslaught of lawsuits against OIN, and the federal government.
- Where was his attempt to negotiate a settlement with the Oneidas?!
He promised to put a stop to NYRI at the federal level. - In the beginning, he sponsored two bills that would make it more difficult for NYRI to proceed at the federal level.
- Since then, he has been silent. He even missed an important hearing regarding NYRI.
- I don't even remember hearing his position when NYRI petition the DOE for compensation for its investors.
He promised he would be an independent and not go along party lines. - His voting record speaks for itself.
- The Independence party has elected to endorse Hanna this election year.
While he was unopposed for much of this past year, he felt the need to pay Ms. Stiles a hefty monthly stipend to help him campaign in NYC. Mind you, this is the same woman Spitzer used to fund his high priced hookers. She is also under federal indictment. Interestingly, Arcuri has been silent on this whole issue. He does not do interviews anymore. He did not show up for two interviews with Keilar. He only issues e-mail press releases. Yet, the paper does not find this odd and refuses to investigate further into his sudden fear of public appearances. During his first year, he could not get enough of them. Why the switch? What is he so afraid of? The fact that the pathetic disgrace won't allow comments to that article does say it all. They know there is more going on than donna has allowed the public to read. It is really too bad because her personal gain/agenda has adversely effected this entire region for decades. |
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Post by clarencebunsen on Oct 4, 2008 9:37:51 GMT -5
Swimmy,
Would you please offer to write Mr. Dudrack's next political ad? Your arguments are much more cogent. If you do, include the promise to save Social Security.
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Post by Clipper on Oct 4, 2008 9:43:02 GMT -5
Amen Clarence, and very well said Swimmy!
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Post by gearofzanzibar on Oct 4, 2008 15:33:29 GMT -5
He promised to settle the disputes between OIN and the local governments. Mr. Arcuri was lying through his teeth. The OIN is, by far, Mr. Arcuri's top supporter. They spent close to a quarter million dollars on ads supporting his election through their "New Yorkers for Better Communities" 527. Not suprisingly, the group was launched in July of 2006 and shut down in November of that year- after the election. The details of it's expenditures can be found at www.campaignmoney.com/political/527/new-yorkers-for-better-communities.aspThis was nothing more than political theater designed to cover Arcuri's vulnerability to charges of being in bed with the OIN. I happen to support the Nation's refusal to give up it's sovereignty, and it's pretty clear Mr. Arcuri does too. It was just an empty campaign promise that absolutely no one has called him on. Take a look at his much vaunted "Stop NYRI" pledge. It actually says nothing about stopping NYRI. He just pledges to get some government grants and talk to Gov. Paterson about energy issues, but never actually commits to, you know, STOPPING NYRI. Folks, the fix is in. NYRI is going through and Mr. Arcuri is, quite literally, in bed with the folks pushing for it. Legislatively, it's two biggest supporters are Charlie Rangel and Jose Serrano- both Arcuri donors that he's refused to oppose on any issue, much less NYRI. The International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers is practically the Arcuri family business, and they've funneled tens of thousands of dollars to both Mr. Arcuri and NYREA, the pro-NYRI front group. You think a man sitting on the Rules Committee, the guy hand-picked by Nancy Pelosi to supervise the incredibly controversial FISA debate, can't put a stop to the legislation supporting the NYRI corridor designation? After Serrano and Obey rammed it through the Appropriations Committee he just sat on his hands and let it slide on through. "But, but...it'll go through Mike's backyard!" I'm sure that will be an unsolveable problem for a guy married to a real estate agent. Folks, this is it. This is the year. Based on the massive hit NY is about to take in tax revenue, and local government's unbelievable thirst for more taxes, the area is on the verge of entering a death spiral IT CANNOT SURVIVE. Just over 40% of the jobs in the area aren't government or taxpayer supported positions. Once that percentage dips below 40 percent central New York is going to enter a failure cascade of epic proportions. Unless things change, by the time the next census rolls around you're going to see an acceleration in the loss of jobs, income, and population that will sound the death knell for upstate. |
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Post by clarencebunsen on Oct 4, 2008 17:14:56 GMT -5
Gear,
I wish I could argue with you or or at least find some small exaggeration in the doomsday scenario.
The background music playing on my computer is "We Didn't Start the Fire." It seems perfect. I think I'll hit replay.
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Post by dgriffin on Oct 4, 2008 19:00:56 GMT -5
Folks, this is it. This is the year. Based on the massive hit NY is about to take in tax revenue, and local government's unbelievable thirst for more taxes, the area is on the verge of entering a death spiral IT CANNOT SURVIVE. Just over 40% of the jobs in the area aren't government or taxpayer supported positions. Once that percentage dips below 40 percent central New York is going to enter a failure cascade of epic proportions. Now, now, Gear, don't have a conniption. You may be right, but I find it hard to believe. I understand the hit to NY State revenues provided by the Wall Street debacle. I know first-hand of "local government's unbelievable thirst for more taxes." (Our local schools superintendent is driving around, visiting seniors, telling them how to apply for reverse mortgages! While his teachers (and himself) suck down another raise!) And although I don't know why 40% is the magic tipping point, I doubt if everyone in the state (even everyone in the Mohawk Valley) will be filling up their gas tanks (if they can afford to) and heading out to ... where? Pennsylvania? South Carolina? Manitoba? (Disclosure: some of my friends have left for South Carolina, but they're golfers and what would you expect from that effete crowd.) I'd more expect a massive taxpayer revolt. No, not rioting in the streets, but people not paying their bills. When the town tax collectors get only 60 % of expected revenues and demand the balance from the county, who goes to the state..... things will begin to change. Then ... maybe ... instead of industrial cutbacks of workers, we'll see massive layoffs of government employees. Might happen. I think something like it could, long before thousands of people meekly walk off their property and leave their homes because they can't pay the taxes. Now, where did I put that gun mount I had saved for the front porch?  |
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Post by gearofzanzibar on Oct 4, 2008 20:53:40 GMT -5
I'd more expect a massive taxpayer revolt. No, not rioting in the streets, but people not paying their bills. When the town tax collectors get only 60 % of expected revenues and demand the balance from the county, who goes to the state..... things will begin to change. You know all those politicians talking about how important it is to keep people in their homes? How even folks with zero income should be able to renegotiate thier mortgage with the bank? Or, heck, just get a pass for a year? Just wait until it's not mortgage payments they're missing, but tax payments. That's when the gloves come off. |
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Post by dgriffin on Oct 4, 2008 21:37:54 GMT -5
Just wait until it's not mortgage payments they're missing, but tax payments. That's when the gloves come off.Yup, and they'll have to fire all their relatives! Or shoot the rest of us. Or ... better yet ... borrow their budget money from Wall Street, who borrowed it from us! |
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Post by frankcor on Oct 14, 2008 15:41:34 GMT -5
From the article: Arcuri’s efforts to help the Central New York economy include:
Securing $3.2 million for Remington Arms in Ilion and $1.9 million for a program to be conducted in coordination with the Air Force Research Laboratory in Rome. This bill hasn’t been signed by the president yet. The OD failed to mention that that money started out as nearly $8 million dollars before it was confiscated from the citizens of central NY, taken to Washington DC where they wasted a million dollars, consumed another million in beauracracy before Arcuri stood for the photo-op handing out the checks he wrote. Voting against the Peru Free Trade agreement, which Arcuri’s campaign has said could have taken away jobs from workers in the 24th Congressional District. Can someone show me where protectionism ever saved a job? Never has. Never will. |
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