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Post by lucy on Sept 25, 2008 13:18:21 GMT -5
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Post by smiley on Sept 25, 2008 13:53:48 GMT -5
I'm so confused.... what could have made this young man do this?
Very Sad my heart goes out to the family.
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Post by countrygal on Sept 25, 2008 18:59:27 GMT -5
What really gets me is that they're trying him as an adult. He has been on this planet 13 years. He has the mentality of a 13 year old. Yes he committed an "adult" crime, but IF he did do it (innocent until proven guilty remember) he could have been mimicing a video game or something. Not totatly understanding his actions. I don't see how they can justify trying him as an adult because he committed a so-called adult crime. My neighbor is his cousin, if I find out any info, I'll pass it on here.
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Post by corner on Sept 26, 2008 6:44:01 GMT -5
you do the crime you do the time rules of life no matter the age look at the ages of your common inner city gang banger they strat out at about the average age of twelve and their crimes include drug dealing and murder for hire...or just making their bones so they will be accepted by their peers...like everyone else i'm waiting to hear the motive for this act and at the age of 13 you have got to know the difference between a video game and reality you get shot i real life you dont usually get to hit the replay button...
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Post by countrygal on Sept 26, 2008 7:35:08 GMT -5
So much for innocent until proven guilty  . And you can hardly compare this to a gang related incident. It's not even the same environment. There are reasons children commit crimes. It's not because they have an adult mentality. I think it's probably all so complex and each case would be different. Let's just hope the justice system, that has proven itself to be oh so right each and every time, works in this case. Whichever way it turns out. |
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Post by Clipper on Sept 26, 2008 8:03:41 GMT -5
Without prejudice to the victim, or the family, I would reserve judgment until the story is complete. We don't know if the crime was driven by abuse by the father, mental illness of the child, or possibly drugs were involved on the part of the boy.
Only the legal process will uncover all or any of those factors. I have to agree with the DA in charging him as an adult though. I would not want to see a 13 year old kid, that savagely shot his father in the head with a shotgun, get out at age 18, to be free to do it again.
Kids today, are not like we were when we were kids. Nobody in my generation would think of killing anyone with a shotgun. They might have had "gangs", but they were mostly gangs that would "rumble" with sticks, chains, and fists. Occasionally a "zip gun" would be used, but seldom did the area gangs come down to murdering someone.
I don't believe it is an excuse by no means, but the TV and video games DOES have an influence on young minds. Being a bad ass becomes a heroic role to assume.
We will just have to pray for the boy as well as his family and watch the legal system sort out the facts and present the case to a jury. I am sure that a case that has taken this long to come to the arrest of this boy, is probably very complicated and will take a long time to thoroughly unravel and present.
It is very sad, to say the least, to see such a handsome and wholesome looking boy standing before a judge, charged with murder.
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Post by corner on Sept 26, 2008 8:43:45 GMT -5
"zip" guns my god you are older than dirt!
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Post by Clipper on Sept 26, 2008 8:57:04 GMT -5
hahaha! Yep, 62 yrs old. I saw a zip gun just once when a kid pulled one out at a UFA dance and threatened another individual with it. It was made of wood, metal pipe of some sort, and lots of black electrical tape, and I think it fired a 22 caliber bullet, from the size of the barrel.
Actually it looked like it would be more hazardous to the person holding it than it was to the intended target, haha.
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Post by concerned on Sept 26, 2008 9:11:34 GMT -5
I understand that the father of this kid had been talking about suicide for a while. I can't understand how a 90lb boy can come home from school. see his dad sleeping on the couch, walk over to the gun cabinet, move a chair to stand on in order to reach the top of the cabinet to get the key, open the cabinet to get the gun was the gun loaded or not--if not then the kid would also have to load the gun), walk over to his father ( who is still sleeping on the couch during all of this) aim the gun to his fathers head and pull the trigger. Doesn't make sence.
I think his father convinced his son to help him commit suicide. This is the only way that everything leading up to the shooting can be explained. Unless the father was so drunk that he passed out on the couch. Even then that wouldn't explain why the kid shot his father.
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Post by lilbump1980 on Sept 26, 2008 14:16:34 GMT -5
The little boy looks so scared and confused in his mug shot.. I think someone else is behind this.. Could it be a cover up? Didn't dad live with a girlfriend?  Did they interview her? |
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Post by Ralph on Sept 26, 2008 15:19:23 GMT -5
Knowing the SP I can assure you they interviewed everyone at great length.
I think this will be one where we will all have to wait to see what the trial brings out before any of us will be able to make a judgment.
While this is a circumstantial case, I can't see them going to court if they were not sure they had all their ducks in a row.
Yeah, the kid looks innocent and scared, but that doesn't mean a thing.
I have seen enough sweet innocent kids just like that over the years, many would rather put a cap in your ass then give you the time of day or get out of the road.
But again.......I think we'll just have to let this play out so that we can see all the cards on the table.
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Post by lucy on Sept 26, 2008 20:39:22 GMT -5
This is a sad situation overall. I agree that we should wait to hear how this plays out in court, but the jury needs to convict beyond a reasonable a doubt. So this will be interesting because now it just seems like they are going with the conflicting stories. This mother if she wants her son to have the best representitive she needs to take a loan out and hire a lawyer.
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Post by countrygal on Sept 27, 2008 10:23:51 GMT -5
What 13 year old pays attention to what time he/she gets home from school or what time he/she did this or that? I don't know, at my age, if I would be able to remember EVERYTHING I did or didn't do when I got home and found my father shot in the face. He looks scared because he is. I feel bad for the family for all these nasty comments they have read on other forums. INNCOENT until proven guilty remember? Something just doesn't sit right. Circumstantial eveidence??? Who can shoot someone in the face and not have eveidence all over themselves? From what I've heard from the family, there was nothing on his clothes, nothing on his body, nothing on his hands. Interesting to say the least. I guess I'll have to wait like everyone else. But I choose to believe (and hope) they have this wrong. And if they do have it wrong, what a thing to put this kid through. |
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Post by dgriffin on Sept 27, 2008 13:26:30 GMT -5
Maybe they're charging the boy to bring someone else out of the woodwork.
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Post by lucy on Sept 27, 2008 14:16:04 GMT -5
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. And you can hardly compare this to a gang related incident. It's not even the same environment. There are reasons children commit crimes. It's not because they have an adult mentality. I think it's probably all so complex and each case would be different. Let's just hope the justice system, that has proven itself to be oh so right each and every time, works in this case. Whichever way it turns out.
Did they interview her?
