FBI needs to investigate Congress members for classified doc

[Atticus Pizzaballa]

Now Biden has classified documents at his home. I bet everyone in COngress does too, LOL

More classified documents found in Biden's Delaware garage, White House reveals

www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-classified-documents-found-his-delaware-garage

[Clipper]

Tell me now that he was not aware of them being stored in his garage, and that is no different in relation to the security risk than Trumps hoarding documents. Biden's folks turned them over, but the crap Biden is peddling about not knowing what is in them or did not know they were in a closet in his office in DC.

[BHU]

As compared to Trump who had hundreds of documents, lied about having them, then claimed he turned everything over until the FBI showed up with a search warrant & found more proving Trump is a liar, then he claimed he declassified them by just waving his hand over them & using his mind with an I.Q. of 20 if he's lucky. After Trump left office more then three dozen of our intel contacts working overseas in places like Russia have been murdered & the docs that Trump stole just happened to contain information on those assets working undercover on our behalf. That's quite a concidence. 

[Atticus Pizzaballa]

Yup Trump made a big mistake. I have no idea what Biden is thinking. He also said those documents found in his corvette were in a locked car and locked garage!!!!. Why do these people even think they can have these type of documents with them in the first place. I can see reviewing them in an office but why take them at home or on vacation. All this needs to be reviewed with a much stricte policy put in place. Who knows what is floating around out there...../.

[Atticus Pizzaballa]

PS I am waiting for Obama to stay something concerning these documents of during his vice presidency under him. Should be good.....lol

[Clipper]

Biden's case is no where near the magnitude of Trumps, but the security risks of having them is equally as unjustified. When I worked for the 485th I had a top secret clearance due to the fact that many of our projects were at the pentagon and we had message traffic that went back and forth. When we got a classified message or document we had to go to the base com center to read it and if it was top secret for "eyes only" it was shredded after it was read. Lower classifications came with a cover sheet and were stored in heavy security cabinets. Most of the traffic that affected the transportation branch that I headed up were simply "confidential" and concerned vehicles and equipment that was in a classified location.

That Trump, Biden, or anyone else would think it right to just pack up some of that classified material and store it in closets or in Biden's case, in his garage. In his office in DC is one thing, but in his garage in Delaware? That is BS.

[Atticus Pizzaballa]

Exactly Clipper. Why do they even want to take any of them home etc with them. Does it make them feel important!

[Clipper]

I ask the same question PB. When a president leaves office there is very little, or no reason for them to have access to classified materials. Access to classified materials is normally on a "need to know basis" and once they leave office they no longer have any justifiable or relevant reason to need or want access to the information, period.

In my not so humble opinion when such a high ranking government official leaves a job there should be a team the national archives, cleared for the highest level of classification, to go in and review all the files, pack them up and take them to the archives. Just having the office staff clear the office and pack up files shouldn't be allowed.

Classified files should most likely be left for the incoming president to begin with, period, unless there is some partisan BS reason for wanting them to disappear.

[BHU]

Jan 13, 2023 12:42:43 GMT -5 Clipper said:

I ask the same question PB. When a president leaves office there is very little, or no reason for them to have access to classified materials. Access to classified materials is normally on a "need to know basis" and once they leave office they no longer have any justifiable or relevant reason to need or want access to the information, period.

In my not so humble opinion when such a high ranking government official leaves a job there should be a team the national archives, cleared for the highest level of classification, to go in and review all the files, pack them up and take them to the archives. Just having the office staff clear the office and pack up files shouldn't be allowed.

Classified files should most likely be left for the incoming president to begin with, period, unless there is some partisan BS reason for wanting them to disappear.

There is a position such as you described who's job is to handle top secret documents & turn them over to the proper authorities. When Biden left office as V.P. that position was vacant. I don't believe for one minute that Biden took those documents with him deliberately. He's not Trump. Not even close.

[Clipper]

Neither Trump OR Biden had any right to take documents with them when they left office. There was a law passed in 1978 after the Watergate investigation of Nixon. All documents from doodles on a note pad to highly classified are to be archived.

The presidential records act of 1978 forbids either the president OR the vice president from retaining any documents. It was ruled that any writings or documents created in those offices become the property of the citizens of the United States when the person leaves office.

www.archives.gov/presidential-libraries/laws/1978-act.html

[Atticus Pizzaballa]

All I feel is that this entire thing will be one HUGE( to quote Billy Fucillo) mess. Nothing is going to get done policy wise as the year proceeds.

[Clipper]

Jan 12, 2023 19:48:48 GMT -5 Atticus Pizzaballa said:

PS I am waiting for Obama to stay something concerning these documents of during his vice presidency under him. Should be good.....lol

I would be interested to know how many documents Barrack has tucked away in HIS home office or other undisclosed locations.

[BHU]

I'm sure that Gym Shorts Jordan The Men's Wrestling King will ask that as his mouth runs a mile a minute. But he can't remember what he talked about with Trump on the morning of Jan.6 during their numerous phone calls or why he voted to help overturn Biden's election win.

[Atticus Pizzaballa]

I think the two party system of our government needs to be overhauled allowing for numerious parties like it is done in England.

[clarencebunsen]

Jan 13, 2023 16:39:11 GMT -5 BHU said:

Jan 13, 2023 12:42:43 GMT -5 Clipper said:

I ask the same question PB. When a president leaves office there is very little, or no reason for them to have access to classified materials. Access to classified materials is normally on a "need to know basis" and once they leave office they no longer have any justifiable or relevant reason to need or want access to the information, period.

In my not so humble opinion when such a high ranking government official leaves a job there should be a team the national archives, cleared for the highest level of classification, to go in and review all the files, pack them up and take them to the archives. Just having the office staff clear the office and pack up files shouldn't be allowed.

Classified files should most likely be left for the incoming president to begin with, period, unless there is some partisan BS reason for wanting them to disappear.

There is a position such as you described who's job is to handle top secret documents & turn them over to the proper authorities. When Biden left office as V.P. that position was vacant. I don't believe for one minute that Biden took those documents with him deliberately. He's not Trump. Not even close.

When Biden left office as V.P. , Mike Pence was sworn in. The position was not vacant. Normally when an administration changes, transition teams work from election to inauguration on transfer of official documents and retention of personal documents.