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Post by dan on Aug 18, 2008 7:46:11 GMT -5
www.uticaod.com/homepage/x1570389806/Officials-Region-s-image-key-to-luring-jobsFinally, a positive step towards promoting our area. Our image is one of the first things outsiders will look at, but the taxes and regulations are also on the top of the list. Paterson has made some steps toward streamlining at a state level, but locally we need to do more to lower taxes, not offer incentives to targeted individuals, but really make the area attractive to all businesses. I also think that more coordination needs to be done. As an example I don't think it's smart to have multiple, small entities running their own promotion campaigns. I like Rome's idea of the green apple, but the area needs to coordinate these efforts to promote the region, not just Rome, Utica, or differentiate with the Mohawk Valley. Lets get it together and promote the region, not work against each other.
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Post by Swimmy on Aug 18, 2008 7:47:54 GMT -5
Can someone please explain to me why we have the Oneida County Industrial Development Agency AND we contract with EDGE?
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Post by dgriffin on Aug 18, 2008 11:43:06 GMT -5
Can someone please explain to me why we have the Oneida County Industrial Development Agency AND we contract with EDGE? Well, it's pretty simple, Swimmy. I just can't remember at the moment! Seriously, I found the reference to the Town of Clay, north of Syracuse, thought provoking. Clay doesn't have the baggage you have in the Utica area. Population was measured in cows when I first lived near Clay, before it became a somewhat upscale locale for residents who work for Syracuse's large employers. Voters arriving on scene formed a reasonably workable government without recourse to who owed whom, who pissed off who in high school, whose family did or didn't speak English in the last (+1) century, etc. You know the scene. This isn't to say that nice homes and short histories guarantee a civil society. Look at New Hartford.  |
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Post by frankcor on Aug 18, 2008 15:19:35 GMT -5
Branding does not feed the bulldog. That's especially true when this area ranks behind the rest of the nation on almost every measure. How can DiMeo say we compare favorably?
I did note that the Town of Clay merged their police department with the Onondaga County Sherriff, saving over $1million this year. Evidently, they thought taxes were more important than turf.
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Post by dgriffin on Aug 18, 2008 16:38:37 GMT -5
I did note that the Town of Clay merged their police department with the Onondaga County Sherriff, saving over $1million this year. Evidently, they thought taxes were more important than turf. . Yes, and they've been trying to do that here in my community since I moved here 35 years ago. Too many relatives holding too many jobs and beholden to each other. |
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Post by Swimmy on Aug 18, 2008 19:15:18 GMT -5
I was serious. Why do we have the Oneida County Industrial Development Agency and contract out to MV EDGE?
On another note, I'm curious if our founding fathers would be shocked to see how corrupt their creation has become.
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Post by dgriffin on Aug 18, 2008 22:13:41 GMT -5
Probably not, if you pointed out to them that it's now 200 years later. I think they suffered no illusions about the propensity of politicians to f**k everything up. You probably wouldn't appreciate the answer, whatever it could possibly be, but I'm pretty sure the two agencies would have a prepared statement about the separation of their duties. I'm pretty sure because I'm absolutely sure they've thought about it.  |
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Post by clarencebunsen on Aug 18, 2008 22:14:42 GMT -5
The short answer, Swimmy.
Oneida County IDA was a total failure but too connected to dump, so a new agency was created and the IDA was made a part of it but still had a budgert. When we decide EDGE is a failure, history predicts a new agency will be created but we will still fund EDGE.
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Post by Swimmy on Aug 18, 2008 23:31:35 GMT -5
Good point, Dave. Our fore fathers had the brilliant foresight for a great many things. I should not be surprised that they would have foreseen this mess.
Thank you for the short answer, clarencebunsen. I guess it's too much to hope for that government in cny will reign itself in and self-audit to streamline operations at a benefit for the people.
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Post by frankcor on Aug 19, 2008 12:59:38 GMT -5
Swimmy, economic development in Oneida County is not about economic development. Rather, it is all about finding high-paying bureaucratic jobs for certain friends and giving them plausable deniability with no accountability. The sooner you come to accept that, the sooner you will be able to reconcile their outcomes with those goals.
You might be surprised about what our founders would think if they could come back today.
I once watched a program on CSPAN that was broadcast from the National Constitution Center in Philadelphia. The museum there features life-size bronze castings of all the delegates of the Constitutional Convention. The curator of the museum has studied the founders of our constitution for many years. The moderator, Brian Lamb, asked the curator what he thought would surprise the founders most if they had the opportunity to visit with us in the current time.
The response was that the founders would be most surprised by
1. The rights that women have and the roles that they play in society today.
2. That we never invaded and conquered Canada.
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Post by Swimmy on Aug 26, 2008 15:21:01 GMT -5
See?! I knew we went wrong in not invading Canadia! lol.
Yeah, I guess I'm still too much of an idealist to realize that I'm misplaced in society. "I can't help thinking that somewhere in the universe there has to be something better than man. Has to be."
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Post by dgriffin on Aug 26, 2008 17:23:50 GMT -5
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Post by Swimmy on Aug 26, 2008 19:25:52 GMT -5
Hahahahaha
I hear those rabid beavers are lethal!
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Post by dgriffin on Aug 26, 2008 20:15:58 GMT -5
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Post by Swimmy on Aug 26, 2008 20:18:17 GMT -5
Damn, where do you find this stuff?!
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