Hillary for VP?

[Disgusted-Daily]

Well we all know Hillary is out. What a relief. But now she wants the VP position. The big controversy is why when she would have no power as the VP. She would be more powerful if she stayed as a Senator.

I think because she really does believe that Obama would be assassinated. That would move her into the President's position. In turn give her exactly what she wanted. Remember Whitewater, the Death of Vince Foster and 15 other persons were convicted of more than 40 crimes, including a sitting Governor who was removed from office.

1) Jim Guy Tucker: Governor of Arkansas at the time, removed from office (fraud, 3 counts)

2) John Haley: attorney for Jim Guy Tucker (tax fraud)

3) William J. Marks Sr.: Jim Guy Tucker business partner (conspiracy)

4) Stephen Smith (Whitewater): former Governor Clinton aide (conspiracy to misapply funds). Bill Clinton pardoned.

5) Webster Hubbell: Clinton political supporter; Rose Law Firm partner (embezzlement, fraud)

6) Jim McDougal: banker, Clinton political supporter: (18 felonies, varied)

7) Susan McDougal: Clinton political supporter (multiple fraud) Bill Clinton pardoned.

8) David Hale: banker, self proclaimed Clinton political supporter: (conspiracy, fraud)

9) Neal Ainley: Perry County Bank president (embezzled bank funds for Clinton campaign)

10) Chris Wade: Whitewater real estate broker (multiple loan fraud) Bill Clinton pardoned.

11) Larry Kuca: Madison real estate agent (multiple loan fraud)

12) Robert W. Palmer: Madison appraiser (conspiracy). Bill Clinton pardoned.

13) John Latham: Madison Bank CEO (bank fraud)

14) Eugene Fitzhugh: Whitewater defendant (multiple bribery)

15) Charles Matthews (Whitewater): Whitewater defendant (bribery)


Remember we have had 7 other VP's take over the Presidency in our history.

Does Hillary and Bill have the power to eliminate Obama or is this to much of a conspiracy theory? Does anybody else feel this explains her motives for wanting the VP title.

[dgriffin]

Plain old power probably would explain Hillary's desire for the office of VP, if that's what she wants. Plus, the limelight associated with the job would be useful to her if Obama were to misstep in his first term and leave office. Assassination is always possible, but I wouldn't count on it, nor probably does Hillary.
An Obama/Hillary ticket could be appealing to many voters. Once the musics starts up and we're presented with a rehabilitated Hillary and a virtual love affair between the two, they will shine much brighter than McCain. They could become the winning team. I think they could win the Presidency. Especially if they do a "Bill Clinton" and steal the other guy's campaign and issues. Remember, we've only seen The HilObam running for their party's nomination. Watch them now come to the center and curdle up hard on foreign policy, for example. They'll make a great looking pair of closet Republicans as they paint John McCain as the new Gerry Ford, the guy who couldn't "walk and chew gum at the same time."

[dgriffin]

If she is chosen to run as VP, as soon as the Obama team gets hold of the Hillary Public Makeup Kit, you'll see BIG changes in her presentation. She'll get warmer, wittier, fresher, sweeter, a brainy older sister, etc. A perfect complement to "her man," the Big Guy. Short of a Playboy centerfold appearance ... and here, even I sicken ... she'll present as the perfect woman.

[Swimmy]

Jun 4, 2008 12:09:12 GMT -5 Swimmy said:

I disagree. I am glad to see that hilary lost the primary, she deserved to. I hope she is not extended the offer to run as VP. After the fallout of her primary and her decidedly racist strategy to get into the White House, she's done too much damage. I doubt it would have the unifying effect that so many officials supporting the idea claim. In fact, I think it would further polarize the party to the point that McCain would not have to even show up to a debate or run a campaign at all to win in November. The move would push supporters of both officials over to McCain. Realistically, how do you reconcile the bitter hatred both candidates spread about the other? I noticed hilary's hate-spreading tactics more than Obama's but I'm smart enough to know he did his fair share of mud-slinging. After hilary's non-concession concession speech, it will be hard to see them on the same ticket. Her last best chance of pulling her head out of her ass and looking to the bigger picture was blown because she could not let go of her pride and admit defeat. It was a disgusting speech, further proof why she deserved to lose this primary.

[dan]

"After the fallout of her primary and her decidedly racist strategy to get into the White House, she's done too much damage. I doubt it would have the unifying effect that so many officials supporting the idea claim. In fact, I think it would further polarize the party to the point that McCain would not have to even show up to a debate or run a campaign at all to win in November. The move would push supporters of both officials over to McCain. Realistically, how do you reconcile the bitter hatred both candidates spread about the other?"

I know I've been taken to task for this viewpoint before, but don't underestimate the base stupidity of the average voter. We have observed the absolute hatred spewed forth by both these candidates and can see through the veil of civility, but most "citizens" with a voter registration card won't remember any of it 5 months from now. The machine will turn it's propaganda guns on McCain and Hilboma will crucify him. McCain wasn't my first choice, but you play the hand you're dealt. If she can swallow the 5 gallon bucket of bile she's carrying around the liberals will fall all over themselves to vote for this combination. The only way to beat them is to keep them fighting, not getting along. All the people that said"I won't vote for Obama/Clinton if the other gets the nomination" will now have no excuse to stay home, thier candidate will be on the ballot. Granted, in Clintons case, not where she wanted to be, but still on the ballot.

If these two get together, we're screwed and they know it.

[Swimmy]

Touche. Though, I don't think it will as easy to defeat McCain as you may think. McCain can exploit Obama's questionable past, and take a pointer from hilary on his lack of a stance on economic policies. Then, put a stop to hilary by pointing out that she's not the presidential candidate so who cares what she says in reply.

But you're right, the electorate is pretty dumb, it's the only explanation I can come up with for how hilary got into the Senate in the first place. We'll see. I agree, the best plan is to keep them fighting, constantly remind the public that both of those two hate each other and quote some of the remarks each made toward each other.

I just have a hard time swallowing the fact that you're right the general population will forget all this stuff in 5 months. Thank God for the electoral college! lol!

[denise]

Obama would be foolish to take on Hillary as his VP. The Clinton's would have him assassinated within his first 90 days of office, without a doubt!

[bobbbiez]

Swimmy, I have to agree with ya concerning what's-her-name and Obama now teaming up.

He'd be a fool to allow her on his ticket and a bigger fool if he thinks she wouldn't prosecute him on every decision made.

I wouldn't trust her as far as I could throw the bitch. ;D

Just don't under estimate the average voter. Those who backed Obama in the primary did just that because they did not want what's-her-name to get the nomination. Don't assume those who voted for Obama in the primary would do the same in the general election if what's-her-name was on his ticket. I'm sure he is smart enough to realize that.

As far as I'm concerned if she were a Republican she would make McCain a good running mate. They make a good pair. Then Obama would slide into the Presidency.

If Obama is the man I believe he is, he'll pick someone who he knows will work well with him and for the benefit of all the people.
He'll make his own decision and stay away from the political powers who want to see them team up just to beat McCain.

I believe Obama will stay true to himself.
I believe he will tell what's-her-name, "thanks but no thanks."

[dgriffin]

Dan wrote: "I know I've been taken to task for this viewpoint before, but don't underestimate the base stupidity of the average voter."

Thank you, Dan. How right you are. I hate to be cynical... except that I was born that way ... but I think much of this is foolishness anyway. At least, sometimes. Well, maybe more than sometimes. Actually, I just can't make up my mind.

One thing I have noticed is that you have to feel good about someone to walk into a voting booth and pull his lever. Your head may be thinking, but your voting finger is feeling. If you think your way to McCain, but visions of change, harmony, peace, contentment, sweetness and light begin to flood your cerebral cortex, your finger might go to HilObam, especially if her handlers have done a good re-presentation. It doesn't take long for a good PR team to rehabilitate someone in the public arena, even the worst reprobate. We're Americans. We're optimistic and we want to believe the best about people. Then, when everyone is OK (even the folks collecting more jets to fly into our buildings) we can sit back feeling comfortable and plan our next trip to Best Buy.

Here's how I would engineer Hillary's rehab.
1) for the first month, she would say absolutely nothing. She will stand behind Obama at his appearances, wearing dark blue suits and sensible shoes, staring google-eyes at the back of his head, as if she were watching the second coming. Not that forced look where she appears to be holding in a fart, but the "come and get me" after 3 glasses of wine stare.

2. We send Hillary to QVC school. Most people don't think about it, but the QVC women are some of the most peace-inducing, non-threatening, stomach-settling women on television. These characteristics induce the most sales. Even as the ladies have been showing a little cleavage lately for the Latin crowd , I've fallen asleep in their presence. I often recommend to friends who leave their dogs home all day to leave QVC turned on to keep the animals peaceful and quiet.

3. Hillary begins to speak. Eye movements are important here and we'll have to find a way to eliminate her occasional smirks. I think one of those electronic shock dog training collars might work, if we can disguise it to look like something from Yves St. Laurent and get her to stand in a shallow dish of water during speeches.

4. The next phase I call, "Youre OK, I'm OK." As in "everything is groovy." Or even, "hey bro, wassafuk all RIGHT!" Everything she says will be more agreeable than a group of monks on a church picnic. If she has any truly neat ideas, she'll give them to The Big Guy, Barry. Only when the strategists approve, will she begin to offer ideas she can work on herself during their upcoming administration. And that certainly will not include Health Care.

5. Assassination. I'll let Denise take it from here.

Hillary requesting two rolls of paper.

[dan]

ROTFLMAO

Here's how I would engineer Hillary's rehab.
"1) for the first month, she would say absolutely nothing. She will stand behind Obama at his appearances, wearing dark blue suits and sensible shoes, staring google-eyes at the back of his head, as if she were watching the second coming. Not that forced look where she appears to be holding in a fart, but the "come and get me" after 3 glasses of wine stare."

SHRIIIEEEEEEKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!

I may never be OK after that mental image!!

The only way she will stand BEHIND any man is with the K-Bar at the ready. Thrust forward, sink it between C-4 and 5 and twist.
Seriously, the weak link I see is her uncontrollable ego. She would make it about 15 minutes before her left eye would begin twitching. Another 5 minutes and that sandpaper-on-glass voice would be rising from the depths of Hell, talking (no, screaming) about what SHE would do.

[denise]

Jun 5, 2008 10:54:29 GMT -5 dan said:

ROTFLMAO

The only way she will stand BEHIND any man is with the K-Bar at the ready. Thrust forward, sink it between C-4 and 5 and twist.
Seriously, the weak link I see is her uncontrollable ego. She would make it about 15 minutes before her left eye would begin twitching. Another 5 minutes and that sandpaper-on-glass voice would be rising from the depths of Hell, talking (no, screaming) about what SHE would do.

Bingo. This crazed bitch will never play second fiddle to anyone. The assassination plot would be in place before they got to the inaugeration.

[dan]

I always knew I liked you ;-)

[dan]

To Dave:

RE: Your picture caption, reply #8

Isn't that the way Teddy taught her to demand two fingers of scotch?

[Clipper]

Shit, that picture looks like she has already had about 8 or 10 fingers of scotch! LOL If she was to speak in that pic, I bet her words would be slurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrred !!

[dgriffin]

Jun 5, 2008 15:18:18 GMT -5 dan said:

To Dave:

RE: Your picture caption, reply #8

Isn't that the way Teddy taught her to demand two fingers of scotch?

Could be, but I'm sticking with the toilet talk. It's a family tradition.