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Post by Clipper on Oct 7, 2009 22:08:14 GMT -5
Chris, how do Zwiegel's hot dogs compare to Hoffman's? There is a banner ad at the top of the page as we speak, advertising them, and I clicked on it last night and found that they will ship them. ;D ;D Damn, just think, UPS pulls up and out pops a guy with 10lbs or so of GOOD NY state hot dogs. Yeehaw, I died and woke up in hot dog heaven. hehe
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Post by chris on Oct 8, 2009 6:44:28 GMT -5
If you ask any Rochestarian they will tell you Zwiegel's as they are the number one here but then they haven't heard or tasted Hoffmans hots. (see those damm cookies following me around again) They have them with casing or without. They make white hots too. Most people haven't heard about those but they seem to be big also. I would never eat a white hot but then you might like them.
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Post by concerned on Oct 9, 2009 11:15:35 GMT -5
Clipper I'm with you. A real Hot dog....like a nice Hoffmans' hot. And butter, real butter (no Parkay) ;D Concerned...you are joking about the turkey hot dog with cranberries (I hope) No turkey hot dogs are good with cranberry sauce. One night I was cooling some hot dogs and ran out of pickle relish so I though turkey--thanksgiving-cranberry sauce. Well it tasted very good. It is a little runny on the dog when you eat it but I guess the whole berry sauce works well too.Just don't put sauerkraut along with it.
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Post by concerned on Oct 9, 2009 11:17:00 GMT -5
White Hots are great. I think they are made of veal. Or anemic cows
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Post by Clipper on Oct 9, 2009 11:47:54 GMT -5
Actually Concerned, white hots are normally made with pork. I am not a great fan of white hots, but they are okay on a grill in summer. They are gross if boiled or steamed, LOL.
I am sitting here gagging at the thought of mixing cranberry sauce and sauerkraut, haha. Talk about a gastronomic nightmare. I doubt that chemists have yet come up with a remedy for THAT heartburn and upset stomach, LOL.
Actually the cranberry sauce doesn't sound that bad. I used to love a product called "Foreman's Hot Piccalilli" on hot dogs. It was a product made with tomatoes, similar to a sweet and spicy chili sauce. Great stuff! The sold out to French's and then it was taken off the market.
There are still piccalilli products on the market, and recipes to make your own available on the web. I simply buy a sweet piccalilli and then add a half tablespoon of crushed pepper flakes, mix it well, and let the flavors marry in the fridge. The pepper flakes rehyrdrate, and the flavor is great. 1/2 tablespoon makes a pretty spicy mix. If you like it less spicy, simply decrease the amount of crushed red pepper.
It is great. It is much like the chili sauce that was used at the Northern Lights Drive-In years ago. (the Northern Lights was a seasonal hot dog stand that used to sit on the point of Coventry Ave and Trenton Rd in N Utica years ago.)
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Post by chris on Oct 9, 2009 23:52:30 GMT -5
now that's what I call thinking outside of the box ;D Wonder how many other concoctions were created doing so.... ;D
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Post by Clipper on Oct 10, 2009 10:00:40 GMT -5
Hmmm. If hot dogs are good with cranberry sauce, I wonder if the Thanksgiving turkey would be good stuffed with chili, cheddar cheese and diced onions? (maybe a side of fries, and a vanilla shake)
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Post by concerned on Oct 11, 2009 10:30:17 GMT -5
I do like Turkey stuffed with an Italian sausage stuffing. It gives a better taste our National Bird.
I understand that Holland Farms ships Half Moon's.
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Post by Clipper on Oct 11, 2009 11:20:09 GMT -5
MMMM. Italian sausage stuffing. Most folks use breakfast sausage for sausage stuffing, but you are right. There is nothing more tasty than a good bread stuffing made with italian sausage.
I normally saute' the sausage a little bit, simply to render some of the fat before mixing it into the bread mixture. Do you? I make my own sausage and it is quite lean, so I don't have to render much fat from my own, but I still like to give it a start in the cooking process before putting it into the bird.
It is a delicate balance in rendering just enough grease to make the stuffing less greasy, and leaving enough of that fat and grease to carry the juiciness and flavor through the stuffing and into the meat.
I mentioned in a previous post somewhere, that I grind italian sausage again, with a fine plate on the grinder, to make almost a paste, and use that sausage, spread in a thin layer over the entire crust when we make homemade pizza. I have used that fine ground sausage to roast chickens on my showtime rotisserie. I lift the skin and spread that in a layer, under the skin. The flavor of the chicken is unique but delicious. I will have to try that on a turkey.
Don't try it on your thanksgiving turkey unless you are really fond of the italian sausage flavor.(I am) It really does infiltrate the entire breast when used under the skin. Much more so than when simply used in a stuffing.
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Post by bobbbiez on Oct 12, 2009 15:51:41 GMT -5
Clipper, I just found half moons to die for. Took my grandsons today for a hayride and a walk through the corn maze at North Star Orchards on rt 233 in Westmoreland and decided to try their half moons. I have had most of their other bake goods and was always very pleased with all, especially any of their bake goods made with apples. Well let me tell you this, their half moons win hands down over everyone's including Hemstroughts. They are the best ever and so fresh. What I really like about them is the chocolate bottom has a texture more like a brownie. Both frostings are smooth and not over sickening sweet like many of the others. Trust me, they are mouth-watering good. It's too bad you live so far away or I would share my delicious half moon with you and only because I hate seeing a grown man cry. ;D Sorry, but got to leave you, so I can try another new purchase........North Star's lemon-iced cookies.
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Post by Clipper on Oct 12, 2009 21:51:24 GMT -5
Oh sure. Rub it in Sunshine. I was never a great half moon fan, although I do like them. I like chocolate chips from Holland Farms and when Hemstroughts was open, I loved their molasses drop cookies with a tall cold glass of milk.
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Post by bobbbiez on Oct 13, 2009 11:58:43 GMT -5
Now would I do that to a buddy? ;D My grandson had the chocolate chip cookies from North Star and I tried them. Let me tell you, they're excellent and hugh. Not my favorite cookie but could get to like these a lot. The little shit wouldn't let me have another. Had to remind him, "like who paid for them?"
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Post by jjplatt on Apr 8, 2012 12:47:02 GMT -5
this is so strange my aunt Dorothy worked for Hemstroughts since she was 16 untill she retired at about 80 years old.Over the years she worked at every store in and around town I bet she served all of you guys one time or another.A real sweet lady and I love her very much.She live at a old age home now can not hear or speak.She will be 93 soon I hope to see her when I get home.Why this was so strange is the web site for my old grammer school classmates were talking about the nice lady at the shop,and it turned out to be my aunt.So this fell into place with your comments......LOL LOVE HALF MOONS turned everyone here on to them..
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Post by jjplatt on Apr 8, 2012 12:56:08 GMT -5
Clipper you made me smile we have a place called HOT DOG HEAVEN here in Florida...I'm a hot dog junkie I try to mainline them if I could....LOL About five years ago I had my nephews little girl with me and we stopped at Voss.She never had one of there hot dogs.As we sat there A newspaper guy from the OD asked if he could take our picture for the paper,I said yes thinking she will get her picture in the paper so her parents could see it.He thenasked me a lot of question and I told him how I come here every year from florida and have a voss hot dog because i'm a hot dog junkie.Went back to Florida that week and at the end of the week I got three dozen OD newspapers in the mail the reporter but me on the second page eatting a hot dog.My little nephews girl was very sad......LOL
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Post by Clipper on Apr 8, 2012 13:58:40 GMT -5
Great story Jay. I remember a lady named Dorothy from the downtown store on Columbia St. I worked at Jeffery Hardware just before I went in the navy, and we bought our coffee and donuts across the alley at Hemstrought's every day. The age would be just about right. The Dorothy that I remember was in her mid forties then. Very nice lady. Always gave me the "baker's dozen" when I bought cookies to take home. I have not been a Voss's fan in late years. I used to like the frozen custard back in the day when it was a custard, rather than the present day soft ice cream. I also loved their hotdogs back then, along with those from the Northern Lights in North Utica. Now I am addicted strictly to Patio Drive-in chili dogs, lol. We also have a place near here called Red Hot's Chicago Style Foods that sells the authentic Vienna Franks from Chicago with the Chicago toppings including the sports peppers, fresh tomato, the bright green Chicago style relish and celery salt. I would put down a prime rib to eat a really good hot dog. They also serve fresh Gyros carved directly off the spit. Gotta love a good Chicago style dog in an area that thinks that a CORNDOG is the bomb. Yuk!
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