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Post by JGRobinson on Mar 23, 2013 4:16:18 GMT -5
An interesting compilation of how New York proper has been fighting off Albanizer Scrooge. Even Tompkins is proposed banning the Safe Act, thats a telling tale all by itself. Live the Celtic Jam in the background. Its like a second St Patties day for NYers!
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Post by clarencebunsen on Mar 23, 2013 6:21:00 GMT -5
An excellent graphical representation of why those living in the hinterland of New York often feel as if they are subjects of colonial rule rather than participants in a representative democracy.
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Post by Swimmy on Mar 25, 2013 23:40:02 GMT -5
"Lawmakers made other minor tweaks to the law, as well, including a clarification stating that the law cannot be “deemed to affect, impair or supersede” any local gun restriction or law." "Fifty-one county legislatures in New York have passed resolutions in opposition to the gun law, asking for a repeal or major changes. There are 62 counties in New York." There is Hope!!!!
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Post by JGRobinson on Mar 26, 2013 6:01:07 GMT -5
Yes there is hope, that comes in the form of peaceful resistance and a strong voicing of our 2A Rights using our 1A Right. Think about it, nearly 80 million firearm owners are in the battle of our lives yet no one on our side has advocated violence as our first reaction, pretty good for a bunch of Gun Toters!
In our state, we are about as polarized by region as anyone can get. Thats gonna play out in the next election in ways Albanizer Scrooge never imagined. When Tompkins and The Capital District are both 2A green on the map, Andy and friends are in big trouble. This drumbeat cannot be stopped, its coming from every county above The Rotten Apple except Westchester. They may get a couple of the drummers but the rest of us will sound the alarm louder every day.
Even Andy knows he went too far, now he's blaming the "Brady Bunch" for his very own Signature on the "Safe Act". Thats not gonna fly, we all know who to expel the next time we get a chance to vote and anyone that embraced Mind Control via Gun Control is marked for termination. Lets see how safe they feel with the Misses toating a Double Barrel Shotgun onto the deck when they arent surrounded by Officers armed with Ass Weapons anymore!
They may have the population center but we have enough numbers and resources to shut them down and send them packing one republicrat at a time.
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Post by dave on Mar 26, 2013 20:16:45 GMT -5
Gov faking care of business, execs fume By FREDRIC U. DICKER Last Updated: 1:34 AM, March 25, 2013 “This is turning neighbor against neighbor, and it is rubbing peoples’ noses in it,’’ said New York Rifle and Pistol Association President Tom King, who has predicted that hundreds of thousands of owners of assault-style rifles that must be registered under the new law would refuse to obey it. “If you thought people were disturbed and upset about the new law, they are just totally outraged over this bounty,” King added. www.nypost.com/p/news/local/gov_faking_care_of_business_execs_9uIcEq5lJPk96ayylaRAGL
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Post by Swimmy on Mar 27, 2013 1:27:39 GMT -5
Yeah, I read about that hotline with a $500 reward bounty. Next would be registration of all guns.
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Post by bobbbiez on Mar 27, 2013 12:49:03 GMT -5
Yeah, I read about that hotline with a $500 reward bounty. Next would be registration of all guns. I thought you were already required to register your guns shortly after you got your permit.
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Post by Clipper on Mar 27, 2013 13:19:46 GMT -5
The only weapons in NY that you had to register in the past were handguns. Registration for long guns has never been required.
Here in Tennessee the only one that sees your background check form after the check is complete is your dealer. The forms are not filed with anyone else. The dealer is required to keep them on file. Most dealers have file boxes full of the yellow forms stored somewhere on the premises.
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Post by JGRobinson on Mar 27, 2013 17:41:54 GMT -5
Yeah, I read about that hotline with a $500 reward bounty. Next would be registration of all guns. The fact is this is gun registration, they are starting the data base with purchases. Every retail and private sale and purchase will now be registered. For FFLs', it means a little more paperwork but for the citizen thats selling their firearm, its a direct trace to prior and possibly current ownership, puts you on the radar. The person buying it has no rights to privacy, pistol permit holders downstate were outed by news-papers like Sex offenders, now they have become targets for break ins and some have had their pistols stolen as a result. For the criminal who sells stolen weapons, its a financial boom; their unregistered pieces just became much more valuable! In Onondaga County, it can take 15 months to get a pistol permit if you dont have any issues, much longer if they have questions. You can however get an instant background check that ensures your safe! does any of that make sense? We have a right to a speedy trial if were suspected of being a criminal but other rights seem to take more time...
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Post by bobbbiez on Mar 27, 2013 23:44:21 GMT -5
The only weapons in NY that you had to register in the past were handguns. Registration for long guns has never been required. Clip, if one is required to register their hand guns then what's the big deal if they have to register their long guns?
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Post by Ralph on Mar 28, 2013 0:43:31 GMT -5
In New York you have to have a pistol permit before you can get a handgun.
We are not required to have a permit(s) for long guns, so why should we be required to register a rifle or shotgun?
Remember, if everyone registers every gun they have, then the Government will know where they all are.
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Post by Clipper on Mar 28, 2013 9:25:42 GMT -5
BZ, the "big deal" is this. HANDGUNS SHOULD NOT HAVE TO BE REGISTERED EITHER! the permit process is invasive enough, but the number of handguns and the serial numbers should not be required to be registered to the permit. If you are approved for a permit it should make no difference to, or be any business of government to track whether you own 1 gun or 10.
Make no mistake about it. New York's invasive and socialist thinking libtards in Albany are coming for your guns and your 2nd amendment right to own them. ALL of them, not just assault weapons. They may take them one at a time, but they will take the right to own them eventually if they are not stopped in their tracks.
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Post by JGRobinson on Mar 28, 2013 9:41:14 GMT -5
BZ, the "big deal" is this. HANDGUNS SHOULD NOT HAVE TO BE REGISTERED EITHER! the permit process is invasive enough, but the number of handguns and the serial numbers should not be required to be registered to the permit. If you are approved for a permit it should make no difference to, or be any business of government to track whether you own 1 gun or 10. Make no mistake about it. New York's invasive and socialist thinking libtards in Albany are coming for your guns and your 2nd amendment right to own them. ALL of them, not just assault weapons. They may take them one at a time, but they will take the right to own them eventually if they are not stopped in their tracks. Exactly
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Post by JGRobinson on Mar 28, 2013 10:54:21 GMT -5
BZ, the "big deal" is this. HANDGUNS SHOULD NOT HAVE TO BE REGISTERED EITHER! the permit process is invasive enough, but the number of handguns and the serial numbers should not be required to be registered to the permit. If you are approved for a permit it should make no difference to, or be any business of government to track whether you own 1 gun or 10. Make no mistake about it. New York's invasive and socialist thinking libtards in Albany are coming for your guns and your 2nd amendment right to own them. ALL of them, not just assault weapons. They may take them one at a time, but they will take the right to own them eventually if they are not stopped in their tracks. exactly
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Post by bobbbiez on Mar 28, 2013 13:17:05 GMT -5
BZ, the "big deal" is this. HANDGUNS SHOULD NOT HAVE TO BE REGISTERED EITHER! the permit process is invasive enough, but the number of handguns and the serial numbers should not be required to be registered to the permit. If you are approved for a permit it should make no difference to, or be any business of government to track whether you own 1 gun or 10. Your first statement confuses me. How long has it been since one is required to register a hand gun? If that has been the requirement that has been abide by then I don't understand why all of a sudden it's such a big deal to register ones long guns. That was my question. Besides, hasn't this procedure been very instrumental in solving crimes and why would anyone object to that? Clip, actually having just gone through the pistol permit procedure I didn't find anything while doing that to be invasive. There was nothing on that pistol permit application that I would be ashamed of or hesitate to answer. Quite honestly, I thought it was a pretty simple procedure for one to obtain a pistol permit.
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