NYS new Gun Control Law

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New York Gun Control: Cuomo, Legislative Leaders Reach Tentative Deal On Assault Weapons, Magazines

ALBANY, N.Y. — A key New York Senate leader and the Assembly speaker said they expect the state Legislature to vote Monday to enact what would be the nation's first gun control measure following last month's Connecticut school shooting.

"I think when all is said and done, we are going to pass a comprehensive gun bill today," Sen. Jeffrey Klein told reporters Monday morning. "I'm very excited about it. I am very confident we are going to vote on a comprehensive bill that will be agreed on by the governor, the Senate and Assembly."

People familiar with closed-door negotiations told The Associated Press a tentative deal was struck over the weekend.

The tentative agreement would further restrict New York's ban on assault weapons, limit the size of magazines to seven bullets, down from the current 10, and enact more stringent background checks for sales. Other elements, pushed by Republicans, would refine a mental health law to make it easier to confine people determined to be a threat to themselves or others.

Senate Republicans also have included a further crackdown on illegal gun trafficking into New York, the people said. Most New York City gun crimes involve weapons illegally brought into the state, state and city officials say.

The people spoke on condition of anonymity because the proposal had not been discussed among rank and file legislators. They say the tentative deal will be debated behind closed doors Monday in the Senate and the Democrat-led Assembly and could be sent to the floor for a vote Monday.

A Cuomo administration official, who also spoke on condition of anonymity because the deal was not final, said there was no agreement yet.

A vote Monday would come exactly one month after a gunman killed 20 children and six adults inside Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn.

Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver said the deal will include ways for schools to use state aid to better guard against shootings.

The vote also would require Cuomo to issue a "message of necessity" that would dispense with the three days of public review that bills are supposed to have under the state constitution. There was no immediate comment from Cuomo, who made these gun control provisions a keynote of his State of the State address on Wednesday.

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At least it is the beginning of a new way of rethinking the 2nd Amendment in light of current day events.

[dave]

From above, "New York Gun Control: Cuomo, Legislative Leaders Reach Tentative Deal On Assault Weapons, Magazine," the following sentence:

They say the tentative deal will be debated behind closed doors Monday in the Senate and the Democrat-led Assembly and could be sent to the floor for a vote Monday.[/blockquote]

Oh. Isn't that nice? Behind closed doors. I thought in a democracy the doors to the legislature were left open.

[Ralph]

This is the beginning of the end.

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There was an AP story in the OD the other day on Cuomo's leaning further to the left just like his father Mario. Here's a good example. Cuomo is an oppurtunist who wants to be POTUS. That's why he's fastracking this gun bill. He'll look good on national tv when his lying, scheming mug is presented in the photo-op. Cuomo is a snake, just like Mario was.

[corner]

no cracker worse than mario had the displeasure of working under both their regimes with the old man we had 3 terms of no raises and benefit depletion

[dave]

Jan 15, 2013 5:34:25 GMT -5 @kracker said:

There was an AP story in the OD the other day on Cuomo's leaning further to the left just like his father Mario. Here's a good example. Cuomo is an oppurtunist who wants to be POTUS. That's why he's fastracking this gun bill. He'll look good on national tv when his lying, scheming mug is presented in the photo-op. Cuomo is a snake, just like Mario was.

Kracker, you've been reading my mind.

Everything that happens in Albany for the next (few?) years that Cuomo Jr. can control will be geared toward helping him toward the Presidency, on which he will spend most of his time. It won't matter to him if the state chokes on it's own gluttony for tax revenues or from a Constitutional point of view becomes so bad that Russia begins to look good to the average New York citizen.

There are numerous examples of similar governorships being used as presidential stepping stones. And that's especially true for New York State:

www.bartleby.com/170/8.html

[denise]

These idiotic politicians really believe that a law is going to stop criminals from doing what they do.

[corner]

denise the whole idea is to find out who has the guns and magazines legally to kep all of them under government control,.. government needs criminals and crazies to break the law so they can impose more control over citizens who obey the law.....when i was still on the job in state law enforcement somebody came up with the idea that all cops should be dna'd and put into the database and that our emplyee records should be made available ro the public it took law suits to stop this nonsense,,,the vote last night led by the very left leaning nyc politicians to curb law abiding citizens also voted against raising penalties on the criminal misuse of firearms cause most of nyc politicians particularly the darker skin bretheren have a relative or several of them in prison.

[Ralph]

My disdain for the state of New York is now seconded by the utter contempt I have for its present politicians.

I feel like chewing my leg off right now.

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The new law doesn't seem to invasive or a radical shift in the 2nd Amendment. Those writers of the 2nd Amendment and those who ratified it would never have begun to have thought what such simple firearm's in their time have become today. If they have I think they would have placed some restrictions upon it.

Maybe a restriction to the 2nd Amendment should read that any person with a history of mental illness, even with medication to control said mental illness and even those who care for those said persons, within their homes, shall be prohibited against ownership or obtaining any form of gun. Those who allow these people to obtain firearms shall be charged with contempt which shall be punishible to life in prison.

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Jan 15, 2013 2:41:26 GMT -5 Ralph said:

This is the beginning of the end.

Well we can still own a canon. A little difficult to carry around but a great determent in front of ones home and castle.

[JGRobinson]

Ralph, they are drawing first blood and it will cost them their jobs. Cuomo wants to be POTUS, he will be lucky to finish out his first term as our Governor without being impeached, tarred and feathered.

Its time to fight fire with Napalm, our rights as Citizens of this country are being violated by the Government we hired to Protect our unique way of life.

They have grabbed the Dog by the tail and they will get the whole dog with this hat trick, teeth and all.

is a 7 round magazine? There is no such device that I am aware of for an Armalite ir Kalashnikov so you wont be able to use the weapons they so generously allow you to keep if you already own one! They just made at least 4 of my friends (2 dems) possible criminals if they dont turn in thousands of dollars worth of their collections!

I predict Remington Arms will be moving out of state ASAP, say goodbye to lots of high paid skilled Machinists, Smiths and Toolmakers!

This wont pass like other crap they have thrown at us.

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Jan 15, 2013 7:46:39 GMT -5 dave said:

Jan 15, 2013 5:34:25 GMT -5 @kracker said:

There was an AP story in the OD the other day on Cuomo's leaning further to the left just like his father Mario. Here's a good example. Cuomo is an oppurtunist who wants to be POTUS. That's why he's fastracking this gun bill. He'll look good on national tv when his lying, scheming mug is presented in the photo-op. Cuomo is a snake, just like Mario was.

Kracker, you've been reading my mind.

Everything that happens in Albany for the next (few?) years that Cuomo Jr. can control will be geared toward helping him toward the Presidency, on which he will spend most of his time. It won't matter to him if the state chokes on it's own gluttony for tax revenues or from a Constitutional point of view becomes so bad that Russia begins to look good to the average New York citizen.

There are numerous examples of similar governorships being used as presidential stepping stones. And that's especially true for New York State:

www.bartleby.com/170/8.html

Dave, Cuomo is also pushing to get the Tappan Zee replaced & it's on the fast track big time. The project will be one huge public works project costing billions, most borrowed. I can see Cuomo's smirk now when the plans are finalized & he has his big news conference & it's making me nauseous.

[Clipper]

I am sorry but restricting the capacity of a magazine is just an example of liberal left wing ignorance and stupidity. To drop out an empty magazine and pop in another would take about 1-2 seconds. Instead of carrying two 10 round magazines, a person intent on firing 20 shots will waste all of 2 or 3 seconds using 3 seven round magazines instead.


YES, Cuomo and his band of morons will most likely drive Remington Arms out of the Mohawk Valley and out of NY State. THAT alone is a crime. He should be tied to a post for all of Ilion to slap the stupid out of.

Does anyone remember the impact of having UNIVAC leave Ilion and Utica? There was an initial negative impact when they closed the plants in Ilion and an even greater hit to the local economy when they closed the Turner Street plant in Utica and moved those operations to Cupertino California, Blue Bell Pennsylvania and down here to Bristol Tn. Of the 950 jobs at the Utica plant, only 100-150 were transferred. My dad was one of 30 that came here to Bristol.

Remington Arms is probably among the largest surviving manufacturing companies left in upstate NY, and a panicky and paranoid move on the part of liberal Democrats in Albany is signing the death warrant for 1000 more manufacturing jobs through their blatant ignorance concerning gun control as the answer to deterring crime.

Cuomo couldn't have hurt the local economy in CNY any worse if he had simply made it illegal to manufacture firearms in NY State, and told Remington that they had to move. It is only a matter of time before they reorganize their production plan and move operations out of Ilion to one of their other locations.

[dave]

Critics assail Cuomo's gun deal as secret, rushed

Associated Press

ALBANY, N.Y. — Gov. Andrew Cuomo is being criticized by a good-government group and rank-and-file lawmakers for rushing his gun control law through secret meetings to make New York the first state to enact a measure since the Newtown, Conn., tragedy.

Dick Dadey of Citizens Union says the closed-door negotiations followed by immediate votes were unnecessary for a bill in which most measures aren't effective for 60 days.

Dadey says public input and debate makes better laws.

Democratic and Republican lawmakers complained they saw the bill for only 20 minutes to two hours before they had to vote.

Republicans say Cuomo pushed his bill to passage to boost his own political career.

Cuomo says the scourge of assault weapon violence constitutes a dire emergency and government must act as soon as possible.

—Copyright 2013 Associated Press


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