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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2015 14:49:47 GMT -5
I am beginning to not like Windows 10.
I had no problem this morning with computer. I turned it on this afternoon and it didn't want to start up. I left it along and then a note came up saying not to turn computer off because it was updating. After the updating ended I get this message in a window:
Runtime Error Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library Program: c\windows\system32\atibtmon.exe
contact application support.
Can anyone help me don't know what that means but I am connected to internet and all is working so far.
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Post by clarencebunsen on Aug 15, 2015 17:26:45 GMT -5
I've had a few unexpected restarts and the recovery from 2 of them was not graceful, I had to do a hard restart (with the power button) in order to continue. Both time I was using the Firefox browser. My impression is that it is not quite ready for prime time. There have been a couple updates to Win 10 and an update to Firefox so hopefully the situation is improving. I haven't had time to use the netbook today. I'm not going to install it on my computer until it looks a lot more stable. My wife's computer will stay at Win 8.1 for a long time after that. Thankfully I have the luxury of having a non-critical device to experiment with.
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Post by dave on Aug 15, 2015 22:06:45 GMT -5
Of course, Alan can always turn off the auto update function. I've always had mine off, but recently decided it was safe to turn it back on because Windows support for XP had gone away. And I wanted to get rid of the warning bubble that appeared each time I turned the computer on.
The first time I turned the PC off after I turned auto updates back on I was surprised to see the familiar "Don't turn off your computer. Windows is updating and will turn the PC off when it finishes." There was one update.
The next time I turned off the computer I got the same message, but there were 166 updates. I like to have all my equipment manually powered down before I go to bed. I have no idea how long those 166 updates would take and I don't care. Anything longer than 15 seconds is too long. Auto updates is now again turned off.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2015 10:48:58 GMT -5
I found out what that runtime error was all about. It had to do with power for screen brightness. I changed it to high performance for brightness and that message no longer appears.
Now. I checked updates and there was one waiting. It said it was scheduled for 3AM but I decided to let it download whatever it was even though it said it might take 20 minutes. Well it only took 7 minutes but know when I turm the computer on I get this screen that tell the day and date. I looked at it and said now what do I do so I clicked on the screen with the mouse and a new page popped up asking me to sigh in. Good thing I remembered my password because I forgot to write it down( I wrote in down right then and there) after I entered it I got to the start page for Window10. I can't figure out how to stop this sign in page from showing up. And I also can't figure out why I had to get that stupid download that made the happen!
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Post by dave on Aug 16, 2015 14:01:37 GMT -5
Alan: Good example of why I turned off the service downloads. They changed function and appearance. Pain in the butt. I'd sit down to use my ... MY ... computer and be confronted with something that required me to change my use or learn something or whatever, just to use ...MY... computer. MY computer, damn it, not Microsoft's.
It's like going out in the morning to your driveway to find the Maintenance Change Team from Toyota parachuted in during the night and moved your floor pedals around. And messed up your radio station buttons.
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Post by clarencebunsen on Aug 16, 2015 14:44:24 GMT -5
If there is a way of turning off the auto update function in Win 10 I haven't found it yet. Downloads of updates appear to occur automatically. If I go to Start>Settings>Update & Security>Windows Update>Advanced Options I can choose to a limited extent when the computer will restart after an update is installed but I don't see any way to prevent down loading an update.
Right now if I check for updates it tells me that there is one from a couple days ago that failed and it will try again later, later being something like 3 AM. I suspect if it is turned off at 3 AM it will try on start up. Strangely there have been more recent updates which have installed successfully.
Searching on-line for this problem and the error code it generates I find that I am not alone. Some people claimed to have solved it by going to the command line and editing the registry but I don't think I'm ready for that much fun. I think this may have been the source of the mystery restarts I experienced. I started the machine, got called away for baby tending or something and missed a notification like "Update installed. Restart in 15 minutes."
Dave, Unless you have a machine without much purpose and enjoy spending time solving computer puzzles, I don't think you will be happy with Win 10 in its present state.
Alan, I don't think you can do much about the sign on situation. It's much like the Win 8 sign on. That never made much sense to me either.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2015 16:02:18 GMT -5
CB I was trying to find a way to prevent automatic downloading but can't either. I also have been trying to get rid of that sign in page that shows up. It's frustrating because I am the only one in my apartment to use this machine unless that ghost of Christmas past comes around again.
I wonder if Clipper has downloaded his reserved copy of WIndows 10. This trying to find stuff is time consuming. Just a little while ago I went to check a recipe and my files are all messed up. I had to click 'word wrap' to get the view I want otherwise I had to scroll across the page to read a recipe file.
Also I can't get the zoom percentage to be the same for each web page I view.
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Post by clarencebunsen on Aug 16, 2015 18:48:34 GMT -5
Alan, which web browser are you using when you have the problems you mentioned? If you just click on the "e" you get Microsoft's new "Edge" browser. I believe the older IE is still available with Win 10 but I haven't checked that out. I used Edge to go through the Win 10 tutorial but not much beyond that. I did notice that it had some options I haven't explored yet. My first impression was that it looked like the Chrome browser.
I tend to use the Firefox browser most often. I think that is mostly because I have it synced across several devices and it looks the same with my menu bar synced from notebook to netbook and sort of the same on tablet & phone. It did have a big update a couple days ago. I use Google Chrome on phone & tablet. It's native on those and the bookmarks are the same although the look is a little different.
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Post by Clipper on Aug 16, 2015 22:41:35 GMT -5
I have not been on-line much in recent days. I have the Windows 10 download reserved but I am sitting back and watching to see what it brings for those of you that have already downloaded it. I am in absolutely no rush to jump into it with both feet until the bugs have been worked out and you guys have figured out all of the ins and outs.
I am still using a mouse and keyboard and don't have a touch screen monitor, web camera, or any of the fancy bells and whistles. I am comfortable using what I have as long as it does what I want it to do and operates the applications that I use on a regular basis.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 15:13:38 GMT -5
Alan, which web browser are you using when you have the problems you mentioned? If you just click on the "e" you get Microsoft's new "Edge" browser. I believe the older IE is still available with Win 10 but I haven't checked that out. I used Edge to go through the Win 10 tutorial but not much beyond that. I did notice that it had some options I haven't explored yet. My first impression was that it looked like the Chrome browser. I tend to use the Firefox browser most often. I think that is mostly because I have it synced across several devices and it looks the same with my menu bar synced from notebook to netbook and sort of the same on tablet & phone. It did have a big update a couple days ago. I use Google Chrome on phone & tablet. It's native on those and the bookmarks are the same although the look is a little different. I am using Edge. From what I remember it is a lot like Chrome so I wonder if Microsoft will keep Chrome. I switched back to Internet Explorer and it took forever to load a page. Maybe because I haven't used it since I downloaded Windows 10 and the new browser. Oh boy time to run to the basement and get my cloths out of the dryer. I would send the wife but don't have one.
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Post by chris on Sept 10, 2015 10:39:36 GMT -5
All these issues guys is making me really look forward to a new computer win Win10. (still using XP) Not in any big hurry probably cause I use my devices more than my PC. Maybe by then they will have all the bugs ironed out.
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Post by dave on Sept 30, 2015 10:25:16 GMT -5
I'm with you, Chris, my desktop main PC is still on XP. Had my fill of Windows upgrades when I tried Windows 8 some time back. I rejected it and went back to XP. (drivers issues.) I've recently been looking at the Lenovo refurbished work stations I'm fond of (because of price) and they are now Windows 7, another non-favorite of mine since I've had to put up with it on my HP laptop. I wonder if anyone knows if there is a relatively cheap (under $100) upgrade path from Win 7 to Win 10? If I buy another Lenovo, I might be happier running Win 10 rather than Win 7.
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