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Post by thelma on May 3, 2008 19:58:19 GMT -5
www.uticaod.com/news/x1880419286A new Task Force is being formed by the DA's office for investigating major crimes which also includes the shooting and/or death of a Police Officer. Eventually, this Task Force will also handle Cold Cases. Hats off to our new District Attorney for getting tough on the criminals that are overtaking our City.
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Post by concerned on May 4, 2008 11:04:10 GMT -5
And who is paying for all of this. I am sure it is not the families of the ones who commit the crimes. Even if they are caught, prosecuted an serve time, the taxpayer suffers.
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Post by dan on May 4, 2008 11:34:48 GMT -5
At least in this case it could turn out to be money well spent if done right. There's alot of interagency cooperation that will be needed and ego's could hurt this effort. Most of the SWAT teams are already coordinating strikes outside of thier own jurisdiction. The County could pay for this easily by cutting out some of the insanity it already pays for.
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Post by thelma on May 4, 2008 11:55:39 GMT -5
And who is paying for all of this. I am sure it is not the families of the ones who commit the crimes. Even if they are caught, prosecuted an serve time, the taxpayer suffers. ................................................................................ According to the article, this Task Force will be COMPLETELY funded by a grant from the FBI for communities to help solve crimes in their area. |
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Post by thelma on May 4, 2008 12:05:40 GMT -5
Dan - IMO - the fact that NYS Troopers are cooperating with the UPD and accompanying our Officers in patroling crime filled areas is a good start in acknowledging Law Enforcement involves everyone - regardless of the Uniform an Officer is wearing.
My youngest daughter was engaged to a Correction Officer at one time when she was being severely harassed by a former boyfriend that she wanted nothing more to do with. Despite calling the UPD several times, this boyfriend always managed to leave the area BEFORE the cops came.
One night, while she was driving her car and her financee the Correction Officer was with her - the boyfriend drove them off the road. When she got out of the car to confront the boyfriend because she was so angry - he threw a hammer at her which hit the car.
Since this occurred outside of Utica, they went to the State Police Barracks in Herkimer - where once the State Police found out my daughter's financee was a Correction Officer and a witness to this crime - they threw the book at the boyfriend.
He was arrested later that night - charged with Unlicensed Operator, Menacing, and Intent to harm with a Deady Weapon. He went to Jail for 6 months and followed up with 3 years Probation. Today, he is serving a 30 year term in Clinton State Prison for crimes he committed on this next girlfriend!
We only hear about some of the FEW conflicts between various Police agencies - BUT there are many, many times when they all work together as their common goal is to get the bad guys locked up and protect Society from these hoodlums.
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Post by concerned on May 4, 2008 12:27:37 GMT -5
And who is paying for all of this. I am sure it is not the families of the ones who commit the crimes. Even if they are caught, prosecuted an serve time, the taxpayer suffers. ................................................................................ According to the article, this Task Force will be COMPLETELY funded by a grant from the FBI for communities to help solve crimes in their area. I agree but where does the FBI eventually get its money from. Maybe the ASCP should also help out because we are talking about animals here. |
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Post by thelma on May 4, 2008 12:35:47 GMT -5
I agree that the criminals that have polluted Cornhill and now moving into West Utica all act like animals (the Trial over the killing of Officer Lindsay proved this).
Yes, the FBI utimately receives their monies from our Federal Government which ALL of us pay into. But - on the otherhand, I feel that is money we should all feel proud is being spent on something we can ALL benefit from.
I would rather have my tax dollar be spent on Task Forces than pay for some politician's night out on the town.
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Post by concerned on May 4, 2008 13:02:41 GMT -5
Our resturants need all the customers they can get in these difficult times. In terms of the politicians it is almost becoming there patriiotic duty. lol
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Post by corner on May 4, 2008 17:27:11 GMT -5
great opprtunity for the state police to learn inner city policing
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Post by frankcor on May 4, 2008 17:42:22 GMT -5
From the article: "The multi-agency force would investigate incidents such as last month's Whitesboro Street fire that killed four or the death of a police officer, McNamara said. "
So, if frankcor gets murdered, the regular police will investigate the crime. If todd gets murdered, it gets the special handling of the task force? hmmmm
Excellent point, corner. And it should also make it easier for state police to recruit from the inner city.
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Post by thelma on May 4, 2008 19:58:03 GMT -5
The State Police have higher standards to be accepted for employment than the UPD does. I doubt very much if there are any "inner city" folks" that could meet their high standards of education and a spotless record.
In all my years, I have never meet a State Trooper that didn't conduct himself or herself in the highest of high professional behavior.
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Post by frankcor on May 4, 2008 21:52:53 GMT -5
I agree, Thelma. And that's why they spend so much energy trying to recruit more troopers from inner cities -- they know it will make them a better police force. Not everyone born in inner cities are scumbags.
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Post by Clipper on May 4, 2008 22:10:55 GMT -5
Now tell me that there are no educated people capable of passing the state police test, in the "inner city". WTH! Gee, doesn't that make you feel good Ralph. All "inner city" people are stupid.
I guess maybe they need to recruit in N Utica, and New Hartford, to get "smart people".
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Post by Ralph on May 4, 2008 22:36:34 GMT -5
Clipper, the requirements for NYS Troopers are much more stringent than the UPD's, both on the educational and fitness levels.
Unless you have already either served in the military or have gone through police training, you have to have a minimum of 30 college credit hours in the LE or Criminal Justice field.
99% of those that apply from the "inner city" don't even get past the original application process.
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Post by Disgusted-Daily on May 4, 2008 22:56:04 GMT -5
I was talking with a retired Utica Police Captain of 36yrs who stated the patrols by the State Police and Sheriffs Department are nothing new in Utica. This practice has been done for awhile now.
He also commended Plyman for getting Police agencies to work with each other and for taking advantage of allot of grants.
Thelma you quoted "I have never meet a State Trooper that didn't conduct himself or herself in the highest of high professional behavior". It seems that way because they are few and far in between. I think the last numbers I seen they were approximately 6,000 strong for all of NY State. When our ERT (Emergency Response Team) worked with the Troopers during 911 to guard the Capital, Governor house, Reservoirs and etc. I could tell you plenty of stories that would make you go hmmm. They are no better or professional than any other agency. They do have a tougher recruitment program.
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