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Post by nhcitizen18 on May 3, 2008 8:08:19 GMT -5
Another thing that drives me crazy about some people that live in this area: www.uticaod.com/education/x514715745Is the Enhanced STAR program where senior citizens who aren't filthy rich get around a $60,000 reduction in their assessed values that much of a secret? Are most senior citizens as ignorant as Sandy Williams when it comes to this? It gets very hard to listen to people bitch that don't bother to do some very basic research. Hell depending on what community you live in in this area qualifying low-income senior citizens can get up to a $110,000-$120,000 exemption on their assessment. I must be missing something because I just don't get it.
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Post by frankcor on May 3, 2008 16:07:06 GMT -5
I think some school boards use STAR (both basic and enhanced) as an excuse to increase spending. That is not its purpose at all. It is to shift the cost of education from local property tax (which has little correlation with ability to pay) to state income tax (where the ability to pay is explicit). Spending was intended to be maintained, not increased.
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Post by nhcitizen18 on May 3, 2008 16:20:05 GMT -5
Frankcor,
That may be so, but the fact remains that senior citizens get a very large advantage from STAR that is not availible to the rest of us. When citizens are as ignorant of the advantages they derive to make the dumb statement that Sandy Williams did it infuriates me.
Federal, State, County, City and Town governments are shielded from the stupidity of the electorate by operating in a republican fashion by having their elected members vote their budgets up or down instead of the populace as a whole. I truly feel sorry for the poor school districts that year after year have to put up with the willful ignorance of the populace and still try to accomplish their mission.
This lady is dead wrong when she says there is no advantage for senior citizens, but she'll still vote NO on the budget. If that's the way most senior citizens feel maybe we should take the senior citizen STAR exemption away since they don't appreciate it anyway. I know I'd enjoy the reduction in my state taxes as a result.
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Post by Clipper on May 3, 2008 16:48:01 GMT -5
NH Citizen, your day will come. Leave our star program as is. MOST senior citizens appreciate the program very much. One person does not a consensus make! Especially that particular person. We have read her meanderings on the OD forum before, and not too many put stock in what she says anyway.
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Post by corner on May 3, 2008 17:28:14 GMT -5
the new governor (hopefully this would be his only term) has targeted the star program as one of his pet peaves he plans to change it or abolish it.
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Post by Clipper on May 3, 2008 17:51:55 GMT -5
I guess maybe NY needs to think about changing or abolishing Paterson, haha!
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Post by frankcor on May 3, 2008 19:08:16 GMT -5
Remember, there is no intelligence test required for voters.
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Post by corner on May 3, 2008 19:46:34 GMT -5
voting should have been left the way it was in times of old property owners only!
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Post by Disgusted-Daily on May 3, 2008 23:28:52 GMT -5
I been down that road. In the end I saw the other side and realized that it was a unfair assessment. In short I was wrrrrrrrong (hard for me to say ) to think like that.
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Post by frankcor on May 4, 2008 17:32:41 GMT -5
Do people who pay rent pay property tax?
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Post by dan on May 4, 2008 17:36:03 GMT -5
Through thier rent. The landlord passes the tax bill along through thier rent. The landlord is responsible for the actual payment of the tax.
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Post by Swimmy on May 4, 2008 18:12:18 GMT -5
I guess maybe NY needs to think about changing or abolishing Paterson, haha! Now, now. Patio would castrate you for that remark.
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