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Post by frankcor on May 2, 2008 10:44:49 GMT -5
I gotta side with Dave on this one, Thelma. The Constitution is always material -- why would so many people have died defending it if it weren't?
The more heinous the crime, the more important it is to protect the criminal's constitutional rights. I believe there is evidence to indicate that NY's policy of continued confinement meets that test. So for now, I won't grieve for those who will remain locked up for what they did. But the constitution is always material.
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Post by thelma on May 2, 2008 11:26:59 GMT -5
Frank,Dave & Clipper - All I have to say about "Constitutional Rights" is to remember how many Amendments have been made to the basic Constitutional that was written by our great forefathers BEFORE the days of Level 3 Sex Offenders!!!!!!!
No doubt there probably were sex crimes even back then -BUT- I'm sure they were dealt with in the vigilante ways that were so common in those days (but effective as hell).
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Post by Clipper on May 2, 2008 13:03:57 GMT -5
Hahaha! Thelma is going to have the last word guys! Give it up!!!hehehe!
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Post by frankcor on May 2, 2008 13:26:36 GMT -5
Ahh, but the Constitution itself provides the means by which it is to be ammended. The criminal's rights have not been ammended away as far as I can tell.
Thelma, don't ever wrestle with a hog. You're gonna end up getting dirty and the hog kinda enjoys it. On this issue, I'm a hog.
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Post by thelma on May 2, 2008 18:02:00 GMT -5
Well, Frank, YOU will never be a "Hog" in my book; you are too much of a gentleman to be called this name.
BUT - I will still stick with my "Last Word" on this matter and leave you to wrestle over Constitutional rights with someone else!
Have a nice evening (even if it is cold and raining).
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Post by dgriffin on May 2, 2008 18:20:28 GMT -5
I just finished reading a rather long article in my local paper about Megan's Law. www.ulsterpublishing.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=article&articleID=448226There are some interesting points in the piece, which is about a wealthy millionaire who has financially subsidized an Institute which may be a cult and a Montessori school where he lives on the grounds. He is a Level 2 sex offender. He stripped little boys with Cerebral Palsy naked at a local Association of Retarded Citizens agency's pool while an employee there and lay naked underneath them, masturbating. He was caught by a child's mother in the act. He admitted it under oath. The school he was essentially funding at first tried to hush his past up, but later the school's director became alarmed and the facts became more public than they had been. Also disturbing is the statement in the article that he has a legal right to live next to the school, on the school grounds. "Many people take comfort in a false security that convicted sex offenders are automatically not allowed within proximity of schools or children. That is not so - it is a function of their probation stipulations, which many do not have. In January 2008, neighboring Orange County passed a law prohibiting all sex offenders, regardless of classification, from loitering within 300 feet of schools, churches, playgrounds, day-care centers, public pools and even basketball courts, punishable as a misdemeanor. Though Rockland County has limitations as to where sex offenders may live, Orange County legislators concluded that it would be more productive to limit where they may hang out. The county, including its Department of Social Services, is helping police enforce the new restrictions by creating detailed maps of each municipality providing marked "child-safety zones," the new areas now off-limits to sex offenders." And in my county, Ulster, we received "... a grant from the state for $250,000 which Bob Sudlow, the probation director, will be using to get a GPS system to monitor where offenders live. That point may be a moot one however; since no law is currently in place barring pedophiles from being in certain areas, the GPS unit may play itself out to be more of a feel-good measure that will likely not be able to track any actual crimes." "Babes in the woods...How Megan's law is destroying a perfectly good school, sowing disharmony in a spiritualist Eden and turning a reformed pedophile loose as an angry, wounded ex-success story.
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