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Post by concerned on Apr 21, 2008 9:01:09 GMT -5
www.uticaod.com/homepage/x1699206395This guy is a danger to himself, other people and property he should have his license removed forever aand serve some time in prison. Lets end it now before he kills.
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Post by Clipper on Apr 21, 2008 10:49:17 GMT -5
 Something serously wrong with our legal system when a person is allowed to get even a SECOND DWI without doing some jail time. I drank alcoholically for 7 years when I was younger. I went home drunk almost every night. I never had a DWI, but I think the only reason was that I lived in a rural area at the time, and didn't have to drive far. I shudder when I think of how many times I did not remember arriving home, or how I got there. I have a cousin who had several DWI's in the state of Ohio. The laws allowed her to continue to drive until just recently, when a trooper chased her for several miles on the wrong side of a 4 lane highway. She had no idea where she even was, when they questioned her. It is my opinion that the only way that this will be controlled, is to make DWI a crime instead of an "traffic offense". The first time a person is arrested they should have a "criminal" record, and be on probation for 5 years, with a jail sentence hanging over their head if they violate the probation. That is entirely feasible and workable. I am not proud to admit, but I once was taken before a judge and he put a court order in effect that ordered me not to drink in Herkimer county. It was soon after that when I went into rehab and quit drinking. For me one beer was too many, and a case was not enough. Alcohol will never be controlled as the drug that it actually is, until drunks and martini sucking politicians like Ted Kennedy are banished or dead. Too much social life revolves around being in an "altered state of mind" for politicians to legislate against or impede social drinking in any way. I wouldn't care if someone drank themselves into oblivion 7 nights a week if they didn't drive afterwards. The penalties for drunk driving are the major problem, not alcohol control laws. Burn someone's ass good just once, and they will carry the phone number for a reliable cab company ever after.
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Post by WestmoGuy on Apr 21, 2008 12:33:08 GMT -5
Yeah, how was he even able to get #2 and then #3? Something screwed up with the legal system. Wonder if he will get a plea bargain?  |
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Post by thelma on Apr 21, 2008 13:03:45 GMT -5
Did you notice that his SECOND DWI is still "Pending" - now he has a THIRD DWI!!!!!!
Thank God no one has been killed yet by this drunk!
I agree - a second DWI in 10 years is considered a FELONY - He has had 3 within a two year period (or less). If that doesn't result in revocation of his license AND jail time - then something is definitely wrong with our legal system!
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Post by Ralph on Apr 21, 2008 14:18:54 GMT -5
They should have just plopped his ass in jail without bail, pending the resolution of both cases!!
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Post by thelma on Apr 21, 2008 18:15:21 GMT -5
Ralph - How much do you want to bet that the reason the SECOND DWI is still pending is because this drunk has hired a lawyer who is working on getting the charge either dismissed, reduced, or just a fine. Wonder what this lawyer is going to do now with the THIRD DWI arrest?
I don't know if you remember me posting this real life situation before, but where I was living before I moved into my own home, the head of the Maintenance people was a young man in his early 30s with a drinking problem. The Manager of this complex had already went to the owners of this complex and begged that this man keep his job when he got his SECOND DWI.
One afternoon, his man called in sick. Instead of staying home because he was "sick", he spent the entire day in a local barroom. Around noon, he left to come back to his home BUT went thru a stop sign and hit TWO CARS - totalling his own car! Luckily, no one was hurt.
He was arrested on his THIRD DWI - hired a lawyer - paid a fine and had house arrest for 3 months. This time the owners of the complex insisted he get fired - but the Manager pleaded once again and they kept him on.
As soon as the house arrest was over, this Manager happened to be driving by the same barroon which was about a mile away from the complex and noticed the complex truck parked outside. When the Manager walked into the barroon, he was greeted by the same maintenance man who said "Hi - sit down and I'll buy you a drink"!!!!!!!
He was fired on the spot!!!!!!!!
Bottom line - he is still driving and has done no jail time even after all the DWIs he has had, plus the serious accident. Thankfully, he is living in the Valley and, hopefully, doesn't come thru North Utica again!
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Post by Swimmy on Apr 21, 2008 20:45:20 GMT -5
Someone like the governor's children need to be killed by a drunk driver before stricter dwi laws are written. Look at the assault weapon ban, that thing passed on outrage because a congressman's husband was gunned down by assault weapons.
I hate to sound cold or heartless, but it's the truth. We are a reactionary society. And if a politician's family member was killed by a dwi guy with 3 dwi convictions already under his belt, you would be amazed at the media outcry and the mass movement to change these laws because that driver should never have been allowed to get passed 3.
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Post by thelma on Apr 21, 2008 21:15:05 GMT -5
I hate to admit this, but you are probably right Swimmy. I would like to see the day come when Justice is served for the "common man" and not just the rich that can afford a high priced lawyer to keep them out of going to jail.
I wish the IRS could give a huge income tax break for those lawyers that handle cases on a Pro Bono basis.
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Post by Ralph on Apr 22, 2008 0:12:10 GMT -5
I have to agree Swimmy. There are only two solutions as I see it: #1 - Send them to jail.......at least a year or two. #2 - Take away their license..........but break both their legs when you do cause you know they'll drive even without one!!! Gee...............I wonder why we did away with the "ball & chain"?  |
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Post by Swimmy on Apr 22, 2008 6:44:04 GMT -5
Gee...............I wonder why we did away with the "ball & chain"? 8th Amendment and a spineless U.S. Sup. Ct. |
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Post by Clipper on Apr 22, 2008 14:34:06 GMT -5
 They don't have a ball and chain anymore, but my ex finally pushed the limit and ended up with a house arrest ankle bracelet, and telephone check-in's every few hours, along with some sort of breathalyzer hooked to her phone. I think that program should be used for EVERY drunk driver, starting with the first offense, but it is probably too expensive to implement except in extreme cases. I am glad I was not still married. I would find that telephone thing an imposition on MY freedom too! If there was a cop on the other end, "sniffing" my "breath" I would fart in the damn thing every two hours.LOL
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Post by frankcor on Apr 23, 2008 0:16:28 GMT -5
$1000 bail? Sheesh. This guy is probably driving around drunk right now.
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Post by WestmoGuy on Apr 23, 2008 9:27:17 GMT -5
I figured it was Judge Vanslyke (insert laughter here) but
it ended up being Virkler.
$1000 cute huh?
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Something serously wrong with our legal system when a person is allowed to get even a SECOND DWI without doing some jail time. 
They don't have a ball and chain anymore, but my ex finally pushed the limit and ended up with a house arrest ankle bracelet, and telephone check-in's every few hours, along with some sort of breathalyzer hooked to her phone. 