After Bebop A Lula: Utica Bands 50's 60's

[bobbbiez]

Feb 15, 2011 19:16:59 GMT -5 jon hynes said:

[quote author=kit board=ueh thread=779 post=63150 time=1297809975 Larry DePerno Jr just died last week. DiCastro's is the building where we had the reunion of bands this past summer.

Sad. Larry Jr was too young. RIP Larry.

He and Sandy live right behind my sister in Whitesboro. I knew Larry Jr when he was just a little kid because his dad and my dad were good friends. Larry Sr and his brother, John, sponsored my dad's bowling team when they owned the Forest hotel. My parents owning a camp at Sylvan beach allowed me and my sisters lots of time to spend at the Forest enjoying all the great bands who played there.

[dgriffin]

Feb 16, 2011 0:58:51 GMT -5 bobbbiez said:

Feb 15, 2011 20:16:43 GMT -5 @dgriffin said:

Wasn't there a fourth place, sort of diagonal from the Forest, closer to the canal? I remember playing there one night, trying to figure out their organ. They didn't have a piano. I think the organ belonged to another group who appeared there regularly. I don't think the place was as popular as the other three.

Yes Dave, you're right. It's called, Yesterdays, now. Had a pretty good size bar and dance hall.

Thanks, Bobbie. The name I remember it by from years ago is right on the tip of my tongue, but I can't remember it. But anyway, it's good to know I wasn't hallucinating an entire bar and dance hall!

[kit]

Isn't the place called "Yesterday's Royal" or something like that? I had a delicious dinner there one evening and they make an outstanding ice cream sundae.

On another note... I'm a drummer in the Utica College Concert Band and I just returned from a 4 week vacation to find that there's now a young gal in the percussion section who is a student at UC. Her name is Julia Cardillo. I asked if she is related to a Ron Cardillo and she asked "which one... my father and my grandfather are both Ron Cardillo?" Turns out that her grandfather Ron was the drummer most of us remember from the early 60s. I know I've taken his photo before but I can't remember what group(s) he was in back then.

Can anyone help me out?

[jon hynes]

Feb 16, 2011 10:02:30 GMT -5 kit said:

On another note... I'm a drummer in the Utica College Concert Band and I just returned from a 4 week vacation to find that there's now a young gal in the percussion section who is a student at UC. Her name is Julia Cardillo. I asked if she is related to a Ron Cardillo and she asked "which one... my father and my grandfather are both Ron Cardillo?" Turns out that her grandfather Ron was the drummer most of us remember from the early 60s. I know I've taken his photo before but I can't remember what group(s) he was in back then.

Can anyone help me out?

Eddie Arcuri-Guitar & Vocals Freedie Faccioli-Keyboards

Ronnie Cardillo-Drums Eddie Elly-Bass Tony Scialdone-Guitar

[rod supiro]

In the early 60's, Lakeshore had two rooms. One country and one rock. However, I loved the Forest Hotel the best. When I was playing drums, my back was to an open window. Not sure I would want to do it today, but it sure was fun back then.

[rod supiro]

Hey Jon, you have a great memory. Dick, Joe and Richard were most certaintly in the UFA band at that time. Also, Doug Virkler and early on, Jan Williams and Ronnie Zito. I was in our old neighbor hood recently, and it looks like it's still 1958.....hardly changed at all.

[rod supiro]

Hey John, You have a great memory. Dick Ladue, Joe trovoto and Richard Evans were most certaintly in the drum section when I was there......not sure about the others. However, Doug Virkler and early on..Jan Williams and Ronnie Zito werre in the section. Was in our old neighborhood lately......looks the same as it always did.....it was like I was in a time machine. In those days we had a big time persussion teacher in George Glasgens. Some pretty good drummers came out of Utica i I spent a good many years of my life playing drums around the country and those lessons from George and my experience with the UFA band came in most handy.

[jon hynes]

Feb 16, 2011 10:02:30 GMT -5 kit said:

On another note... I'm a drummer in the Utica College Concert Band and I just returned from a 4 week vacation to find that there's now a young gal in the percussion section who is a student at UC. Her name is Julia Cardillo. I asked if she is related to a Ron Cardillo and she asked "which one... my father and my grandfather are both Ron Cardillo?" Turns out that her grandfather Ron was the drummer most of us remember from the early 60s. I know I've taken his photo before but I can't remember what group(s) he was in back then.

Can anyone help me out?

At one time Ron Cardillo and Eddie Arcuri were next door neighbors on Boyce Ave. Ed and I used to practice in the cellar and I remember little kids would come to the window and listen. I wonder if Julia or her mother were one of those kids. It was quite a few years ago,

[rod supiro]

Here is the promised picture of Terry and the Renegades. You see a smiling Emil right in front. Behind Emil is Terry Lutes..guitar......to the right is Don Pautke ..bass......to the left is Dominic Famularo.various horns and up top Rod Supiro ..drums

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[rod supiro]

Here is a picture of 16 year old Emil playing at the Forest Hotel. With Emil is Gary Flagg on guitar, Ted Crabas on sax and Rod Supiro on drums.

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[oldnewhartfordboy]

Interesting for me to read about these bands. I guess I am a few years too young to remember most of them. I do remember Eric & The Chessmen who I remember later morphine into the Brass Buttons in Rochester.
My Uncle, Lynn Evans of Rome was a well known drummer in the big band/early Rock & roll era. I remember seeing him play at Sylvan Beach, must been in the late 50's. I believe the place was located near that ride with the cars that went thru the scary house (not very.) I think it's still there. It was near those skee ball places and behind the State Troopers. I do remember the Lake house & Forest but they were getting pretty seedy by my day and were closed soon after I was 18 and able to go. So I was probably was at those places once or twice.

[rod supiro]

Jon.......that record of mine you had was by the Plain Folk.......recorded in 1978.......i played with them for 10 years......I found a copy not too long ago in a salvation army store.......lol

[rod supiro]

I have been looking at past pages one by one.....I'm up to p103.......my hat is off to you regulars......wow........great memories..and Jon.......the pictures and playbills.......you are a real historian........thanks to all

[Clipper]

Thanks to Dave Griffin, and John bringing it here to Clipper's Corner, it has grown to be the longest running and most read thread on the entire forum. It is wonderful for us that are of the age to have listened and danced to all those bands and musicians. For those of you that played the music, it must be even more heart warming.

[dgriffin]

Feb 16, 2011 18:42:58 GMT -5 rod supiro said:

Here is a picture of 16 year old Emil playing at the Forest Hotel. With Emil is Gary Flagg on guitar, Ted Crabas on sax and Rod Supiro on drums.

Rod, I immediately recognized that knotty pine post in the photo of the bandstand of the Forest. I think reconstruction must have intervened between when I played there and this photo was taken, because the bandstand looks much larger than I remember it. In fact, I'd say the Forest had the smallest one I ever played on, with the piano on the back wall so my back was always to the audience, except when the place filled up I could smile at the girls over near the door to my left.
The only smaller band area I remember was in (Jon always has to help me remember the name of this place) Little Falls near he main drag in a basement bar down a stairway.