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Post by Clipper on Nov 27, 2012 10:10:11 GMT -5
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larry
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Post by larry on Dec 7, 2012 3:25:46 GMT -5
This is gut wrenching for me. On one hand, there's no doubt that anyone driving while intoxicated should have to face the same penalties as anyone else. On the other hand, I also hope he's not treated more harshly than anyone else because he is a police officer. People make mistakes and he should have to face the consequences. But we should also keep in mind that officers are "people" too. They aren't God like and do make mistakes.
This is heartbreaking for me because Officer Abel is one of the finest officers I've ever met. He works tirelessly in the community. He's at every community meeting and event. He's great with inner-city kids and has done so much for the inner-city. I don't know the facts of this and am not making excuses. I just hope his good work is not tainted due to a mistake. I'm absolutely sure we've all made mistakes and wouldn't want our life's work or character judged based on one incident. God knows I've made mistakes. Maybe not legally, but mistakes nonetheless. Again, he should be treated like anyone else, but I also hope he can continue his good work in the community.
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Post by corner on Dec 7, 2012 7:56:54 GMT -5
in my agency public intoxication with or with out a dui or dwi was a firing offense under the nys public officers law there are specific and general prohibitions reguarding publlic behavior with regard to reflecting poorly upon your agnecy
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Post by Clipper on Dec 7, 2012 10:15:48 GMT -5
I worked for the federal government for many years and it was a well known fact that if you drank and drove a government vehicle you were going to lose your job. Even if it was a simple case of a gate security cop smelling it on your breath as you stopped at the gate to show ID. One beer would lose a civilian his job, or a GI his stripes.
I feel badly for the officer. It is a case where he simply should have known better and should have taken a cab or some other means of transportation if they were going to drink. It IS a sad case if it ends his career.
I hope it works out for Officer Abel. He IS a good guy and a good cop. Sullivan ended up getting the time in to get his retirement by working at another department for a few months. I hope Abel is able to get his retirement if he IS fired over the incident.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2012 11:04:57 GMT -5
In my profession if you had a felony you were fired.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2012 11:08:04 GMT -5
This is gut wrenching for me. On one hand, there's no doubt that anyone driving while intoxicated should have to face the same penalties as anyone else. On the other hand, I also hope he's not treated more harshly than anyone else because he is a police officer. People make mistakes and he should have to face the consequences. But we should also keep in mind that officers are "people" too. They aren't God like and do make mistakes. This is heartbreaking for me because Officer Abel is one of the finest officers I've ever met. He works tirelessly in the community. He's at every community meeting and event. He's great with inner-city kids and has done so much for the inner-city. I don't know the facts of this and am not making excuses. I just hope his good work is not tainted due to a mistake. I'm absolutely sure we've all made mistakes and wouldn't want our life's work or character judged based on one incident. God knows I've made mistakes. Maybe not legally, but mistakes nonetheless. Again, he should be treated like anyone else, but I also hope he can continue his good work in the community. I agree with you. People in all professions get arrested for DUI or DWI. It doesn't deminish the profession just the person. ANd if it the first time then I wouldn't make a big thing over it except to help the offender to realise the harm that could be done. |
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Post by Clipper on Dec 7, 2012 11:26:36 GMT -5
I don't think in this case, the DUI is as big of a deal as the fact that he was driving a city owned car.
It should be noted that one doesn't have to be falling down drunk or severely intoxicated to be over the BAC necessary to be arrested. Could be as simple as a customs officer smelling alcohol and calling a Niagara police officer to perform a sobriety check. We don't know exactly where he was arrested or what circumstances led to his arrest.
I remember a person on one of my bus trips to Montreal for a hockey game was arrested for public intoxication. They don't fool around when they arrest a US Citizen. He was jailed until someone posted a significant cash bail to insure that he would appear in court. His "major crime" was puking in a doorway and passing out in the grass in front of a church. The following year when it came time for the hockey trip, he was not there. I found that he was not allowed to enter Canada again as a result of his arrest.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2012 16:33:28 GMT -5
I knew someone who was arrested years ago in Canada. He never came back or heard of again.
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Post by dave on Dec 7, 2012 22:30:55 GMT -5
Eaten by bears.
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Post by Clipper on Dec 7, 2012 23:00:50 GMT -5
He got out of jail and is playing professional hockey for the Canadiens.
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