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Post by dave on Nov 24, 2012 12:53:38 GMT -5
This is interesting. From August of 1958, an auto accident on Trenton Road. The newspaper account say the crash was near the Domser Creamery and the occupants of one car were only a block from their home at 141 Forest St., Deerfield. I can't find that address on a modern map (maps.google.com) Click once or twice to read.  |
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Post by dave on Nov 24, 2012 12:59:55 GMT -5
Maybe this will help, if anyone remembers Ken Brazie and his 1968 campaign. His headquarters were in the former Domser's Creamery on Trenton Road.  |
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Post by dave on Nov 24, 2012 13:23:53 GMT -5
From 1961.Click to read small print. 
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Post by dave on Nov 24, 2012 13:27:21 GMT -5
Across Trenton Rd. from the firehouse, running up the hill are a dozen small homes built toward the end or right after WW II. My cousin lived in one at the north end and I believe today the line has been extended with newer homes on both the south and north ends. My brother says that the name of the white haired man who lived next door to my cousins, on the south side, was named Domser. He didn't know anything else about him, but this man would be about Ira's age.
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Post by Clipper on Nov 24, 2012 14:17:13 GMT -5
I know the homes you are talking about Dave. In later years Specht Homes built a subdivision on the left hand side of Trenton Rd. My father had a friend named Bob Bumbalo that owned a Shell Gas Station just up the hill from the firehouse. The place I mentioned earlier where Tiny Williams lived at one time, was between the firehouse and Forest Street. Could have been the same place that Domser had a creamery earlier on. I know there was a fairly large building behind the Williams house, but I can't remember for sure if they ever processed or sold milk there or if they simply lived there while running the dairy on North Genessee.
I guess we will have to wait until BZ gets over her sinus infection and reschedules her dentist appointment with Dr Mark Domser.
I had also forgotten about Tolpa's Dairy. Tolpa's was on Stark Street in West Utica. I think it was about half way between Noyes and Warren Streets. My mom and dad had friends that lived on Saratoga St. near Warren, and I walked to Tolpa's with their son a couple of times for a half pint bottle of dairy orange and a package of snack cakes.
Do they even still bottle dairy orange? It was my favorite when I was a kid. We used to chase down the milkman and buy quarts of it from him in summer. Even as an adult, I bought dairy orange at every opportunity. I lived in an apartment across the road from the Peter's Dairy bottling plant in Oriskany Falls for a short time in the early 70's. I could simply walk across the street and buy our milk and dairy orange.
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Post by Clipper on Nov 24, 2012 14:51:57 GMT -5
Oops, we forgot B&F Milk Center on Roosevelt Drive in Whitesboro. Great place to grab an ice cream cone on a hot day.
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Post by dave on Nov 24, 2012 17:09:01 GMT -5
Not much doing here, today, so am hitting fultonhistory pretty hard.  Will or should make another donation soon! Anyway, I don't have enough room to copy everything of interest, but I just came across an OD article covering Ira F's '62 campaign and his home address is listed as 634 Trenton Rd. So he indeed was my cousin's neighbor, because I remember their address was six hundred something. I wonder if he owned the property, built the dozen homes and live in one. That would not be unusual for a man with real property in the 1940's and 50's. And I found that the dentist Ira L. was (is?) his son and ran for Utica school board in '61, I think. Mark may be Ira L's son. I have a few ads and articles I've found and will post them later. They include Ira F's obit. |
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Post by bobbbiez on Nov 24, 2012 18:48:29 GMT -5
You forgot Tolpas Dairy. When we lived there my mom had the milk delivered to our door. (and he left cheese and eggs too if ordered) I think they were in West Utica over by Sunset someplace. Oh, yeah! And I can remember riding by Tolpas on my bike, but for the life of me I can't place it. Lincoln Ave? On Stark St, about a block away from Spilka's on Noyes St. |
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Post by bobbbiez on Nov 24, 2012 18:58:20 GMT -5
Do they even still bottle dairy orange? It was my favorite when I was a kid. We used to chase down the milkman and buy quarts of it from him in summer. Even as an adult, I bought dairy orange at every opportunity. I lived in an apartment across the road from the Peter's Dairy bottling plant in Oriskany Falls for a short time in the early 70's. I could simply walk across the street and buy our milk and dairy orange. Voss's still sells the little cartons of dairy orange. From the day they opened Voss's they always purchased it from my uncle and godfather's farms, B&F Dairies (Benson & Fedor.) It's the only drink I ever enjoyed and still do.  |
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Post by dave on Nov 24, 2012 20:06:41 GMT -5
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Post by dave on Nov 24, 2012 20:08:34 GMT -5
Where was Forest Street in Deerfield? I can't find it on current maps.
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Post by Clipper on Nov 24, 2012 21:39:13 GMT -5
If you go up Trenton Road past where your relative lived, there is a subdivision of Specht Homes off to the left, above the fire house, but below Mulaney Road. There is Tarleton Rd, Pauline Ave, Forrest Street and I can't remember the rest of the streets in that tract of homes. You can also reach the back side of that subdivision from Utica Road or Cosby Road off Riverside Drive. Cosby Road runs directly into Forrest St.
Google Pauline Ave, Deerfield NY and you will see it. It runs off of Pauline Ave.
I wonder if Forrest St was named for Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forrest, the General most remembered here in the South for the raid on Fort Pillow, on the Mississippi, North of Memphis. His troops massacred all the black union troops AFTER they had surrendered. Being as well read as you are Dave, I am sure you were following the uproar in the media when the Sons of the Confederacy wanted to have a Mississippi state vanity license plate made honoring him. It is also said by some that he founded the original group that later became the KKK.
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Post by dave on Nov 24, 2012 22:57:21 GMT -5
Yup, OK, I found Forest St. on the google map, off of Tarlton. So that is the vicinity of the Domser Creamery, according to the other article that said the family involved in the car crash were a block from their home on Forest St. when they were involved in an accident near the Creamery.
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Post by dave on Nov 24, 2012 22:59:28 GMT -5
Hey, Clipper, any of this look familiar? I came a cross this article while searching for a hit with an argument combining the Creamery with Deerfield Elementary School. Click to enlarge and read.  |
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Post by Clipper on Nov 24, 2012 23:30:28 GMT -5
How did you find that Dave? Wow, that was a hell of a ride. Andy had come up Grace Road to pick me up at a farm where I was working at the time. We slid sidways, started to roll, and hit the pole with the top of the car. It hit so hard that pole did a complete flip and put a twist in the wires while pulling the poles to either side of it down also. the car was a 55 Olds that Andy had just purchased the day before from Superior Motors when they were on N. Genessee St. I am sure he sued them over the faulty brakes. The insurance company paid me for my injuries, and pain and suffering, and it helped to pay for my first year of college and left me with a little in a trust fund I received when I turned 21. It took five surgeries by a plastic surgeon to rebuild my right ear that was shredded by window glass. When Dr Toksu was finished you would never have known it was damaged. THEN I decided to box in the Navy, and about 20+ fights later, I took a severe whipping, and was knocked out by a guy named Bob Fuller from Chicago. I was a 155 lb middleweight and he has a much longer reach than I did. I left myself open and he took advantage of it and dazed me big time. He backed me in a corner against the ropes and was pummeling the hell out of me. LOL. He was a former golden glover and a boatswains mate second class. We fought a Sunday afternoon smoker aboard the USS Kittyhawk, while offshore in the Tonkin Gulf. In the states we wore headgear to box. Overseas, not so much. He cauliflowered that ear so badly that it damaged the cartilage that Dr Toksu had grafted from between my ribs, leaving it permanently scarred. That ear was so swollen that they had to draw off some blood with a syringe, both my eyes were swollen shut and my ribs felt like I had been kicked by a Clydesdale, haha. Hell, I remember that beating almost as well as I remember the car wreck.   I fought 27 fights and won 21 of them. After that beating, and concussion I quit fighting while I still had enough brain left to remember my name and service number. A farmer named Manuel Lewandrowski lived on the corner across from the wreck. He pulled me from the car and performed mouth to mouth to restart my breathing. Then Doctor Falvo ("Possible Falvo") rode with me in the ambulance and treated me at St E's. They called him "Possible Falvo" because in news interviews he always said that a patient had a "possible" fracture or a "possible" concussion.. I think that the photo was taken by Oriskany Joe. That doctor Falvo saved a lot of lives in his day. He actually had a siren on his car and he would chase ambulances. I have seen him at accident scenes in his pajama's and a robe. They don't make doctors like that any more. |
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I fought 27 fights and won 21 of them. After that beating, and concussion I quit fighting while I still had enough brain left to remember my name and service number.