|
|
Post by neveramazed on Jan 29, 2008 12:48:41 GMT -5
|
|
|
|
Post by frankcor on Jan 29, 2008 16:59:14 GMT -5
neveramazed, you don't really expect millionaire major leaguers to play in a game that has meaning only to stupid, sentimental fans? Snap out of it.
|
|
|
|
Post by Swimmy on Jan 29, 2008 18:05:27 GMT -5
Yeah, that would be asking too much of the players to do for the fans who pay their salaries.
|
|
|
|
Post by Ralph on Jan 30, 2008 1:41:31 GMT -5
Well this is certainly a sad state of affairs indeed.
|
|
|
|
Post by Clipper on Jan 30, 2008 12:39:02 GMT -5
It is a major slap in the face of baseball fans, and a economic slap in the face for Cooperstown NY. It is just another example of the primadonna's that professional sports has bred. If a player won't take the time or have the consideration to make time in "their busy lives" to play in a hall of fame game, they should NEVER be allowed into the hall themselves.
Baseball has fallen away from the love for the sport and for the fans, and has gone over to greed for money, and controversy over steroid use and drug addiction. It is hard to go to a major league ball game and not see at least one or more players that were not in the national limelight in the past week for some illicit activity, or some player that wasn't arrested for DWI or assault or something.
Pro sports has gotten out of hand. I remember paying less than $10 for a seat at yankee stadium, before we had to support the multi million dollar salaries.
|
|
|
|
Post by frankcor on Jan 30, 2008 16:15:18 GMT -5
$10 for a seat at Yankee Stadium? You must have been using silver certificates back then!
|
|
|
|
Post by Clipper on Jan 30, 2008 17:04:34 GMT -5
The tickets in the 60's ranged from $10 to about $30 for a field level seat. Yeah we probably were still using mostly silver certificates, or at least some. Haha.
Heck, back then you could take a bus trip to NYC to a ball game for $30 with transportation and a game ticket.
|
|
|
|
Post by frankcor on Jan 30, 2008 20:39:58 GMT -5
I think it was less than that if you took the American Legion bus trip. Beer was extra. Of course, I was just a kid then, tagging along with the legionaires.
|
|
|
|
Post by jduges on Jan 31, 2008 8:16:09 GMT -5
So called fans, crack me up. The fact that they are millionaires is the very reason they cannot be expected to play in what amounts to an exhibition game in the middle of the season.
Let's say the game is the Phillies and the Mets. Santana vs Hamels. Now lets say santana beans Ryan Howard and he leaves the game with a concussion and misses 2 weeks. In that same game, Santana leaves in the 6th inning with tightness in his shoulder, which after an MRI turns out to be a torn rotator cuff and he's done for the season. Would it have been worth it?
The only way to see major league stars is to make the game count. Just play a regular season game, in Cooperstown. We play games in tokyo, Mexico, Puerto Rico and other "neutral" locations so there is no reason this wouldn't work. In addition, you could make a weekend series out of it. Imagine the attention to this area, the boost to the economy. The exposure of the hall of fame and the HOF'ers who could be recognized all weekend.
You can't be blinded by the amount these players make. What your asking is akin to expecting the top surgeons in the world to give a free seminar at the community clinic on the risks of head lice.
No doubt someone will point out that the All star game is an exhibition where players could get hurt. Sure and that's where the fans get this experience that they are bitching about losing in Cooperstown. You don't need two of them. Not to mention the amount of money generated by the all star game which dwarfs anything the HOF game could bring in. Sure money shouldn't be the motive but be real.....if we have a sense of entitlement with players that they somehow work for "us" then why not have each major league team travel the country in the off season playing games at minor league stadiums for free. (Just for exposure and to grow the sport).
If you ran a company and were paying your employees millions you definitely wouldn't put them in harms way in a meaningless event in the grand scheme of things.
i think the HOF game is great and it's too bad they can't work out the logistics. Maybe someday they'l decide to just play a regular season game there on that weekend.
but what do I know? I'm only smarter than Selig and Don Fehr.........
|
|
|
|
Post by Swimmy on Jan 31, 2008 8:22:01 GMT -5
You raise interesting points, Jduges. I didn't think about it that way, but I agree with you.
|
|
|
|
Post by losjibaros on Jan 31, 2008 16:30:00 GMT -5
Players and the Players Union both hate the game.. think about it.. you fly into Utica NY in a little prop.. than you get on a bus... and take two lanes from utica to cooperstown.. the whole time in coop, you are trapped by hordes of autograph hungry fans... only to play a meaningless game and than get back on a bus to UTica, to fly out on a puny prop plane to than get back into the swing of playing meaningful games...
bottom line.. players that play this game drop out of the real world for a few days... and they dont like it.
|
|
|
|
Post by losjibaros on Jan 31, 2008 16:33:56 GMT -5
I am still pissed that nobody except the internet carrys broadcasts of the winter leagues...
cooperstown knew this was coming.. they should have made a run at trying to get allstar break events in.... but with lack of an airport and hotels.. the little city cant handle it... and utica is too far away to help...
I take it swimmy and Farnkcor are not fans... thats cool, i know swimmy is in college and once he graduates and gets married.. well pro sports will become a refuge...
francor i notice posted about how excited roller derby is... nuff said....
|
|
|
|
Post by countrygal on Jan 31, 2008 16:44:21 GMT -5
Los....it seems like you're in a bad mood today. Did you go to Subway again?  |
|
|
|
Post by Clipper on Jan 31, 2008 17:30:27 GMT -5
Damn LJ, who pissed in your rice krispies today? I haven't seen anything close to a positive remark all day. LOL
Somebody force feed ya with Domino's?
I was the one that said rollerderby was exciting and fun. It is if you have seen it. I think basketball is boring, so it is all a matter of taste.
|
|
|
|
Post by jduges on Jan 31, 2008 17:43:52 GMT -5
jesus-Don't bring up taste clipper........that's the comment that started it all.
Jabaros is just a passionate baseball fan who's on edge awaiting his Mets locking up Johan Santana to a contract extention, completing the trade they just made for him. (I believe they have a 72 hour window to accomplish this)
|
|
