R.I.P. Amy Winehouse

[stoney]

Such a unique sound...

[firstamendment]

Yes she did. Ironically, she should have taken her advise from her very own song and stayed in rehab. Gone too young.

[virgilgal]

I didn't even know her music; heard a few songs and caught headlines of her troubles, but this has made me terribly sad. She joins so many of my favorite musicians from the '70's who all moved on too young in similar ways. Another friend just posted on Facebook that he has been feeling oddly saddened by her death and he posted this article. Thought I'd pass it on. It says it pretty well and there's a great song on it by Amy.
thepragmaticprogressive.org/wp/2011/07/24/why-amy-winehouse-matters/

[bobbbiez]

Very, very sad. So young, talented and so much to live for.

[chris]

Another friend just posted on Facebook that he has been feeling oddly saddened by her death and he posted this article. Thought I'd pass it on. It says it pretty well and there's a great song on it by Amy.

maybe cause we feel sad that we were robbed of such talent when for no reasons except the senseless ones. She had so much to live for but those demon drugs were more powerful. I think somehow we were all hoping she would come out on top and beat it.

[virgilgal]

Yes, Chris; that's true and I know her death reminded me of so many other senseless deaths. I keep grieving for her parents. She was the same age as my daughter and it is horrible to imagine their pain watching the public downward spiral of her life. Just makes my heart hurt...

[stoney]

So many great entertainers have died at age 27: Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison, Janis Joplin, Kurt Cobain, Brian Jones..

[stoney]

Speaking of Brian Jones, here he is with the Stones in 1964 in one of their first U.S. appearances~~on the Mike Douglas Show. Remember that??

[Clipper]

Too many have died at 27. I guess that history has not yet taught them that the life expectancy of alcohol and drug addicted party animals is 27 yrs. Sad that money and fame breeds this sort of pointless self destruction. WAYYYY too many great musicians go down this road. Too many hours, fatigue, stress, constant exposure to a party atmosphere, finally addiction, and all too often death. May she rest in peace.

[chris]

one of my Fav's

[JGRobinson]

They lived way too fast and died the same way. One of the blessings in not having her talent is that I wont be exposed to the indulgent lifestyle they ever died from. RIP, sorry to see her gone...

[corner]

lindsey lohan is next!

[Clipper]

As a recovered alcoholic I can attest to the fact that nobody can MAKE a person quit using their chemical of choice, so a judge or forced rehab holds no guarantees of getting a person straight and sober for any period of time.

I DO however think in the case of Lindsey Lohan, she might stand a chance if one judge or another would grow a set of balls and find a way to sentence her to a prolonged incarceration. Long enough for her to actually become chemical free and to have time to re-evaluate the destructive road she has been following.

The sad part is that her offenses that have put her in the system were originally minor. Her defiance and contempt for the judges and courts with her failure to comply with the court's orders don't rise to a level that actually allows a judge to really hammer her with serious jail time. Her attorneys have always been able to thwart any attempt to keep her in a cell for more than a few days.

It is another case of a spoiled brat that obviously comes from a disfunctional family, judging from what we have seen of her father. She also has the money and the means to defend almost anything brought against her, and to pay any fines or fees incurred during these minor scuffles with the law.

You are right corner. She may very well be next. She is definitely on a path to self destruction. A spoiled brat old enough to determine her own misguided fate. When and if she meets her demise, it will be difficult to muster up much sympathy for her.

The major difference between her and Amy Winehouse is that Amy was a talented musician and Lindsey is simply a spoiled brat with a pretty face.

[corner]

and a nice set of hooters to boot!!!!

[firstamendment]

And as someone who knows some people personally that are recovering alcoholics/addicts, I can also attest to what Clipper is saying. Forced rehab mostly doesn't work. In order for rehab to work, it is up to the individual to face their issues, to accept they have a problem. Until then, it is pointless. Only an addict can take actions to correct THEIR life. Rehab is just the tool to accomplish this. If they have no gumption to want to improve their life, rehab is but a punishment that will have no lasting effects whatsoever. Perhaps, given the right kind of counselling, an addict can finally realize they have an issue, but until that point, they won't change themselves and nobody can change them either.

Incarcerating can only fit with the crimes a person is charged with. Can't tack on an extended stay simply because someone might have a substance abuse issue. I do not know if there is any kind of public health law or mental health law where they could be involutarily committed for their own safety. That seems like the more reasonable approach rather than simply putting them in jail. Yes, jail for the crimes, but some other kind of committment for the substance abuse also. Get them to a point of at least detoxification then perhaps an effort to help them see the problems substance abuse causes might hit home.

Another thing I find sad and silly is seeing these celebrity rehab stints where they check in for like a month or two and come out claiming to be "cured". Clip will attest to this, there is no CURE for addiction. Addicts work everyday to keep their urges at bay. Yes, over a long period of time the battle is much easier, but they are not cured. Falling back into addictive behavior can happen at any time unless the addict has control over it.