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Post by clarencebunsen on Mar 8, 2008 21:28:38 GMT -5
Just a guess, Thelma, but your request for cancellation may be opened by a clerical person at a bank in Buffalo and thrown out as "not my job." To cancel, you will have to contact a subscription person.
Nothing unique about the O-D. Notes in a payment envelope are typically a poor way of achieving a desired action other than making a payment.
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Post by thelma on Mar 8, 2008 22:07:54 GMT -5
Thanks for the advice, clarence. I will call the OD on Monday to make sure they note their records to stop delivering my paper.
You were right - the renewal bill came from Buffalo.
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Post by frankcor on Mar 8, 2008 23:07:21 GMT -5
Countrygal, I've heard that theory about the prisons bringing crime to this area because families move here to be with their inmates. Somehow, that story just never rang true for me and I've never seen any factual data to demonstrate it.
From what I can tell, ost of the inmates at the state prisons in Rome and Marcy are 23-years old or younger and convicted of drug crimes. These are not the typical father types who's families would move here to be near. If anyone has data to show one way or another, I'd love to see it.
I think the reason crime has spread here is the same reason it has spread to Albany and Schenectady which have no prisons -- we're all near the Thruway. Thugs leaving NYC to avoid the stiff crime competition follow the Thruway.
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Post by Ralph on Mar 9, 2008 0:15:57 GMT -5
There are some who have "families" that do follow, but as Frank pointed out, they are fewer in number than one might think.
He hit the nail on the head with the rest moving here form the big city.
Face it...........the cost of living is cheaper here and less competition. Their "product" is also worth more on the street here than it is in NYC and its environs.
The problem is they don't come alone. They need their homies and runners with them as well as their favorite ho (or more) to help them secure a residence (or more) and then they have to have a few friends along for the glory ride as well.....and the cycle goes on and on.
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Post by bobbbiez on Mar 9, 2008 2:33:24 GMT -5
Frank, I have to agree with you. Oh, here I go again. Just hate having to do that. Agreeing with Frank . I do agree. I don't feel the families of inmates are the reason for the rise in crime in our area. Can't see them packing up and moving everything here to just be near the inmate who is serving a shorter sentence then those in the max prisons. Plus, I have never seen any statistics proving that point or reasoning. I do believe most crimes we are facing here in this area are drug related crimes and until the demand stops, the supplier will always be here. Take away the buyer and the dealer is gone. Hence the crime rate goes down. Come on people, who is the dealer selling to? The customers aren't coming in from out of town. They are right here living next to all of us no matter where you live. I see the cars coming to the drug houses on my street. These people that can afford those brand new, very expensive luxury vehicles coming to buy the drugs are not living in poverty areas. Please, wake up and smell the roses. It's the demand we should be worrying about and concentrating on. We're not going to get rid of the drugs, dealers and high crime rate until the buyer stops their illegal activities. Ok Frank, catch it quick because it'll be a while before you see it again.
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Post by WestmoGuy on Mar 9, 2008 7:06:20 GMT -5
I think the reason it isn't heard as much is because the OD doesn't focus as much on Rome, only Utica. They're hellbent on making everyone know only the bad about utica and only the good about every place else. too bad nelsonrd doesn't read these pages. You never hear anything about Rome unless something bad happens there. Thats also because all the OD does is concern itself with the life-threatening issues in the great Town of New Hartford and its rich brother and sister suburbs. Same thing with every other town and city in this county. All hail the great Town of NH
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Post by frankcor on Mar 9, 2008 7:47:53 GMT -5
I'm basking in it, bobbbiez.
The OD does have a Rome edition, as well as a Valley edition. If you buy your paper in Utica, you won't see much Rome news in it.
The OD has a reporter who lives in Rome -- Pat Corbett. He lives in Rome and is well versed in both city government and school issues. On most papers, those are two different beats with two or more reporters covering them. Pat also covers the courts. Despite being spread so thin, I found he was always willing to listen to an in-depth explanation of an issue (as long as he wasn't on a deadline) and try to understand it at that level. You don't see all his reports in the Utica edition.
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Post by WestmoGuy on Mar 9, 2008 8:08:19 GMT -5
They just deliver the Rome edition to Rome? I have a Rome mailing address and barely ever see any Rome News. Thank goodness for the Sentinel.
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Post by frankcor on Mar 9, 2008 10:29:46 GMT -5
If I remember right, the B-section (local news) says Rome Edition in the masthead. Also, on the front page, the story at the top of the right-hand column will be different in the Rome, Utica and Valley editions most days.
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Post by dgriffin on Mar 9, 2008 11:27:03 GMT -5
Don't know if it's still so, but in the old days your location wasn't always the only consideration in which edition you got. Also important was timing and delivery work schedules. E.g., the OD "valley edition" went to bed about 11 am and I could hear the presses start up around noon as I sat in Sr. Loretta's homeroom at UCA up the street (those immense Hoe's were LOUD....my Dad, one of the pressman, couldn't hear much in later life...) while my baloney sandwich got warm as it waited to be conjoined with a watered Coke from across the street at what-was-the-name-of-that diner. If you lived in Taberg and your "district manager" got his papers early, you read all about Frankfort that evening. If there was anything to read. You could tell when the ad salesmen were starting a push in a particular geographic area by the abrupt jump in news coverage for that town.
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