5 people shot in Cornhill

[Swimmy]

Love the icon, Ralph! Where do you find them?

[Swimmy]

thelma said:

Another thing - that reporter Rocco LaDuca still has mountains of knowledge to learn BEFORE he can even come close to calling himself a "reporter". I'm willing to bet he is a newly graduate from a College who thinks he "knows it all" and willing to work for peanuts.

Read other written articles by him and I'm sure you will agree with my assessment of his writing "skills".

I believe he's actually in his mid-30s. Before Gomez and Dave on Rock 107.3, Frank McBride and the Big Show interviewed him.

I agree that his writing and journalism skills could use considerable improvement. But he's not a wet-behind-the-ears recent graduate. He has several years of experience. I think you have to look at who his mentor is. With the disgrace as your employer, it's kinda hard not to have poor journalism skills when that is exactly what the disgrace condones, prefers, and trains its reporters in doing.

[Ralph]

I don't remember where I found that one, I must have a thousand of them in my file, let alone the ones from hosted sites on the web.

This place is one of my favorites. www.clicksmilies.com/

[Swimmy]

A more costly means of shutting down such behavior is Nuisance Law litigation. If the landlords seem to constantly rent to the same class of rowdy people, you could always try to sue the landlord and enjoin the landlord from renting to future people who are prone to similar behavior.

Not the best solution. It's costly to the neighboring land owners and the city would not be involved.

I was just curious if the evicted people could thumb their nose at the city by going over to MHA or some other housing program to seek residence. Since Ralph indicated that is not the case, this law is pretty good and I'm surprised it has not been enforced more frequently.

Does this ordinance affect landowners too? Could a landowner be evicted under this nuisance abatement ordinance as well? or only tenants renting property?

[Swimmy]

Thanks for the link Ralph.

[Ralph]

It affects the property owner if he can be found to be continuing the enablement of the nuisance.

A lot of the "who" it affects has to so with the level of cooperation the City receives from the landlord in regards to abating the nuisance, whether it be a Codes or Law Enforcement issue.

If a landlord/owner continues to rent to like individuals, or makes little/no effort to correct the problem, then that is when they will effectively shut down his rental unit(s).



And you're welcome!

[Swimmy]

I understand that about landlords, but what about the a land owner who is not renting? Say I own the property in question as my own personal residence, not a rental unit. And I'm continuously being a nuisance with parties all the time. Can I effectively be evicted?

[thelma]

I think this law only applies to tenants/landlords. If you are the homeowner, there are toerh methods of dealing with you - i.e. Distrubing the Peace, ETC.

[Ralph]

I believe so, or at least penalized financially if I recall correctly.

I don't have a copy of the Ordinance handy anymore, it's packed away somewhere! LOL!!!

Gotta go make din-din for the fids and the wife, catchya's later!!

[Swimmy]

cool. Thanks for clearing up my confusion guys.

[frankcor]

I believe the law in Rome is enforced by revoking the certificate of occupancy. Thus it matters little whether the residents are tenants or the owners. They board it up for a year.

[Swimmy]

And this is constitutional?

[frankcor]

You have a right to own property in NY State. I don't think you have a right to maintain a nuisance. If I recall correctly, the Common Council researched the constitutionality of their ordinance and determined that similar laws had passed judicial review in other communities in NY.

I admit, codes violations may seem draconian at times. Last year I completed a nearly year-long renovation/repair project at my house following devastating (to me, at least initially) storm damage to my home. With everything else in chaos I had no inclination to focus on repairing my front lawn from the tree-root removal and construction traffic or in mowing it. So it went to hell by the end of the summer. I was actually starting to like all the wild flowers and vegetation, bragging to my friends about the wonderful landscape planting God had arranged for me.

Imagine my surprise when on the very day that I finally decided to go out and weed-whack it down, I received notice from the city codes office that due to neighbor complaints (that bitch! I know who you are) I had 5 days to cut the vegetation to 4-inches or less. Otherwise, the city would do it and send me the bill. And yeah, I spent a few minutes on Google and determined it was constitutional.

[Swimmy]

I agree with the beginning part of your statement. I was not questioning that part of the ordinance. I was questioning whether it was constitutional to deny a land owner their right to possess the property. Do they hold a hearing before they board up your property?

I would google all this, but right now, my studying is a little more important and I figure that if someone else already has researched this information they won't mind sharing it with me. So I appreciate your patience with my questions. :-)

[concerned]

hold the landlords accountable for there property regardless who they rent to. Responsibility and neglect is a two way street. If a tenant can be evicted then a landlord should also be evicted( eminate domain) by the government or the courts. Property is not important if the owners are so neglectful that it harms the greater good.