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Post by Swimmy on Feb 3, 2008 10:24:51 GMT -5
Town plans Consumer Square evaluationIt's about time the board did something intelligent in correcting the chaos at Consumer Square. I wonder how they gathered the brain power to figure it out.
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Post by countrygal on Feb 3, 2008 10:50:29 GMT -5
Yes it is about time. I HATE that Wal Mart parking lot with only being able to drive up one lane and down the next. If I have to go to WalMart (which I hate doing also), I go to North Utica. Although that place with it's one main exit is just as annoying!!
I always thought whoever designed that whole Consumer Square area was clueless. The new Lowes/Twin Orchards parking lot design is also horrible. Anyone been in there with a full size pickup? You can't make the corners very easy. They must not have been expecting too many pickups at a home improvement store!
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Post by Swimmy on Feb 3, 2008 10:56:30 GMT -5
Apparently, the underestimated traffic volume when they decided to deviate from the pre-construction study and the original plans.
Perhaps the Lowes's developer did the same thing.
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Post by frankcor on Feb 3, 2008 11:08:34 GMT -5
From the OD: "Since the shopping center that offers Wal-Mart, T.J. Maxx and Barnes & Noble opened in 2002, the volume of traffic has exceeded planners’ expectations."
From the layout of that parking lot with all the medians and traffic islands that block and impede traffic flow, can I assume they were only expecting 50 cars a day?
I never use the main drive at the traffic light to enter or leave the square. It is in a constant state of traffic chaos. The one down at Panera's offers a much easier and safer alternative. The new study will probably recommend eliminating it and constructing more barriers and impediments. Where did the developer's traffic engineers get their degrees? I have to assume it was either the Berkley School of Music or the Culinary Institute.
I agree with countrygal's observations about full-size vehicles at the Orchard. The engineer who laid out the parking-line painting must weigh 97-pounds and drive a Prius.
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Post by Swimmy on Feb 3, 2008 11:56:58 GMT -5
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Post by frankcor on Feb 3, 2008 12:56:02 GMT -5
"This led to several lane misalignments."
Oh, is that what they call erecting curbs and barriers in random directions? Lane misalignments? Schwenzfeier must have studied political spin at the feet of James Carville and Paul Begala.
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Post by thelma on Feb 3, 2008 13:25:53 GMT -5
The only time I shop at Consumer Square is early in the day when most people are working (I'm retired). There is no Sale big enough to get me to shop there on the weekends!
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Post by countrygal on Feb 3, 2008 20:42:35 GMT -5
It's too bad they couldn't make a way to be able to get onto 840 over by Wal Mart. It might help a little bit.
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Post by Swimmy on Feb 3, 2008 20:55:23 GMT -5
kinda like how you can behind the Marquis?
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Post by countrygal on Feb 3, 2008 21:03:20 GMT -5
You can get on 840 behind the Marquee?
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Post by Swimmy on Feb 3, 2008 21:05:30 GMT -5
the roadway by Gander Mountain with the stop light on middle settlement road. if you go straight at the light you're onto 840 heading toward rt. 12 and rt. 8.
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Post by countrygal on Feb 3, 2008 21:08:45 GMT -5
Ah yes, OK. I thought it was strange that they only made one way out of Consumer Square. And you're not supposed to turn left out of the one by Panera bread, but I've been guilty myself and done it just to get the heck out of there.
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Post by Swimmy on Feb 3, 2008 21:13:57 GMT -5
Shhhh! don't give away my secret exit.  |
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Post by kim on Feb 3, 2008 21:42:58 GMT -5
that whole set up is confusing.
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Post by clarencebunsen on Feb 4, 2008 20:58:19 GMT -5
Swimmy,
Was that you I met going the wrong way when I was using my secret entrance?
I thought traffic flow was much improved Dec 2007 compared to Dec 2006.
Of course it may have helped that I did my Christmas shopping on a Sunday morning when a major snow storm was predicted. Sometimes being a contrarian helps.
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