|
|
Post by stoney on Jan 21, 2011 11:32:18 GMT -5
I think Bobbie was replying to me, Clip.  What was name of that old brothel on Pearl St. in the 50s & 60s?? Some woman ran it, & she was pretty famous (& respected) in this area. Damn, it's right on the tip of my tongue but won't fall off. |
|
|
|
Post by bobbbiez on Jan 21, 2011 11:33:37 GMT -5
By the way, I have the hockey game on and the hurricanes just scored their 3rd goal. 3 to 0, Hurricanes. Rangers are struggling tonight with 13 minutes left in the second period. We don't get to watch Rangers hockey very often down here unless they play Atlanta or the Hurricanes.  Yeah, I'm surprised you watched a hockey game. I missed most of the game last night cause the realtor was over and we spent hours talking more about Utica and old time politics then we did on selling my house.  At least it wasn't a shut-out for the Rangers. They did score and lost 4-1. You should have watched the game on Wednesday. They were on fire against Toronto kicking their a**es with a shut-out 7-0. Just love it when they beat a canadian team especially that badly.  GO NY RANGERS!!!!! ;D |
|
|
|
Post by bobbbiez on Jan 21, 2011 11:34:31 GMT -5
I think Bobbie was replying to me, Clip. What was name of that old brothel on Pearl St. in the 50s & 60s?? Some woman ran it, & she was pretty famous (& respected) in this area. Damn, it's right on the tip of my tongue but won't fall off. Ya mean Ma Davis? |
|
|
|
Post by stoney on Jan 21, 2011 11:36:30 GMT -5
Hockey vs. Utica Politics=no difference. You can count on a fight breaking out & someone always gets pucked. |
|
|
|
Post by stoney on Jan 21, 2011 11:37:22 GMT -5
I think Bobbie was replying to me, Clip. What was name of that old brothel on Pearl St. in the 50s & 60s?? Some woman ran it, & she was pretty famous (& respected) in this area. Damn, it's right on the tip of my tongue but won't fall off. Ya mean Ma Davis? Was that it? I thought it was a woman's 1st name. |
|
|
|
Post by Clipper on Jan 21, 2011 11:56:09 GMT -5
Like I said BZ, we don't get Ranger's hockey here very often, but when I scan the program guide if I see hockey, I check to see if it is the Rangers. I don't normally watch hockey, but when the Rangers play, I will watch. I am just not an avid fan like you are.
The Canadians taught the US to play, and now the US beats their asses. It is kind of like the US teaching Puerto Rico and Japan the game of baseball, and now the Puerto Ricans and Japanese players in many cases can make a kid brought up here in the continental US look silly on the field. LOL
|
|
|
|
Post by bobbbiez on Jan 21, 2011 12:02:36 GMT -5
Ya mean Ma Davis? Was that it? I thought it was a woman's 1st name. Stoney, actually it was Irene Burke and her sister who ran the whores houses here in Utica. I think there were at least three they ran, all in the same area. They were taken down during the Fischer investigations in the late 50's and sentenced to prison. At least, they kept their girls clean so their clientele didn't bring home any diseases to their wives. ;D |
|
|
|
Post by Clipper on Jan 21, 2011 12:10:32 GMT -5
I worked on a farm in N Utica where there was a guy in his forties working there also. On Saturday when he got paid, he would take a bath, put on a dress shirt, a tie and sport jacket, splash on his foofoo juice so he smelled like Brut from a block away, and jump on the bus to go down to pearl street. Drinks at the Chippewa, and then onward and upward to get laid in one of the brothels down there. I never figured out why one would have to dress up to go to the Chippewa, and a whore house, where he was going to throw his clothes over a chair and get naked anyhow,  :-/ROFL. I mean gee, it's not like he was going to get down on one knee and propose. He was going to get laid and catch the last bus back to N Utica, hahaha. |
|
|
|
Post by bobbbiez on Jan 21, 2011 12:49:38 GMT -5
Like I said BZ, we don't get Ranger's hockey here very often, but when I scan the program guide if I see hockey, I check to see if it is the Rangers. I don't normally watch hockey, but when the Rangers play, I will watch. I am just not an avid fan like you are. The Canadians taught the US to play, and now the US beats their asses. It is kind of like the US teaching Puerto Rico and Japan the game of baseball, and now the Puerto Ricans and Japanese players in many cases can make a kid brought up here in the continental US look silly on the field. LOL Ya know Clipper, as far as I'm concerned the Canadians get way too much credit in the field of hockey for supposedly being the best. To me the Slavic players were always the best of the best in hockey. In the earlier days of hockey they just weren't allowed to show there stuff here in the US or Canada because of all the conflicts their countries were in and they were not allowed to leave their countries. My God, they weren't even allowed to play in the Olympics until 1950, but then they totally dominated the game over everyone including Canada. Once their countries conflicts ceased and the players either defected or were allowed to leave they became the best players for all teams to recruit here in the US which was done. Now, Canada has taken a back seat in the sport for that reason which would have happened years ago if these Slavic teams were allowed to play in our leagues. |
|
|
|
Post by stoney on Jan 21, 2011 13:01:34 GMT -5
Irene Burke!! That was it. I thought she continued on into the 60s?
|
|
|
|
Post by bobbbiez on Jan 21, 2011 13:41:30 GMT -5
Irene Burke!! That was it. I thought she continued on into the 60s? I just know that Fischer's investigation which I believe was around 1957 resulted in Irene and her sister being arrested, tried and convicted and were sent to prison. Don't know exactly what date they started their sentence. I'm assuming it was before the 60's. |
|
|
|
Post by Ralph on Jan 21, 2011 13:55:57 GMT -5
Tom always used to quip that gun control meant using both hands. |
|
|
|
Post by stoney on Jan 22, 2011 11:52:07 GMT -5
I worked on a farm in N Utica where there was a guy in his forties working there also. On Saturday when he got paid, he would take a bath, put on a dress shirt, a tie and sport jacket, splash on his foofoo juice so he smelled like Brut from a block away, and jump on the bus to go down to pearl street. Drinks at the Chippewa, and then onward and upward to get laid in one of the brothels down there. I never figured out why one would have to dress up to go to the Chippewa, and a whore house, where he was going to throw his clothes over a chair and get naked anyhow, :-/ROFL. I mean gee, it's not like he was going to get down on one knee and propose. He was going to get laid and catch the last bus back to N Utica, hahaha. Where about in N. Utica, Clip? I remember when I worked at Super Saver in '73 & '74, & the farm workers used to come in with their paychecks from DiGristina's in Schuyler. Man, you could tell by their hands (& the manure smell) those guys were hard workers. Poor guys. I always tried to go out of my way for them. |
|
|
|
Post by Clipper on Jan 22, 2011 13:04:20 GMT -5
I worked for George Burton. His farm was next to Fast Trac on Herkimer Rd and Keyes. He at one time owned all the land where the school, church, and houses stand now, including the upper development on the hill which was originally called Burton Manor, as opposed to Keyes Manor for the houses between Herkimer Rd and the bottom of the hill. Even after selling all that land, he still had a strip of land that ran from the house and barns on Herkimer Rd to the top of Grace Road hill. His milking barn was on the corner of Grace Rd and Cosby manor. There are houses there now too. I am sure with all the land he sold, he died a millionaire. His widow lived in that raggedy old house for many years after George died. The house eventually burned down. He also owned the land where Domenica Court is now, and the land where the church just east of Domenica court is now. I remember baling hay on all that land in the late fifties, and riding a horse from Herkimer Rd to the farm on Cosby manor, in a pasture only interrupted by a couple of gates. There was a pond where St Marks is now, and we used to slide down hill and ice skate there. Before Keyes Manor was built in the mid fifties, Keyes Rd was a dirt road that became impassable when it rained. When we moved there, the mailboxes were all on a rack at the corner of Keyes Rd and Herkimer, and there were times when the road was so muddy that cars parked at the gas station and walked home. We move there when there were only houses on Jamestown, Keyes and Richmond Roads and even those were not all occupied yet.
Trucks used to show up in the night with prefab National Homes from Horseheads NY on them. By that next evening there would be two or three more houses standing.
We camped out as kids in a patch of large Pine trees in the woods that used to be where the park is now off of Deland Drive. I can go on forever about the great memories of that area.
If you go West toward Deerfield Corners, there was a truck (produce) farm and greenhouses in the bottom of the dip where that huge church complex is now. It was owned by a family named DiNitto. They sold annuals and tomato plants etc, and grew beautiful veggies for sale. When it came time to pull down the greenhouses, George Burton went down there with his tractor, hooked a chain to the gable end of each greenhouse in turn, and simply pulled them down in a crash of breaking glass. Us kids watched from the side of the hill by Baker's Greenhouse driveway. It was awesome, LOL.
Well, back to 2011 now. Anyone wants to reminisce any further about the area, just holler, haha.
|
|
|
|
Post by Clipper on Jan 22, 2011 13:06:42 GMT -5
Stoney, I remember Super Saver as being a really nice store. I was surprised it didn't make it. I also remember taking my oldest son there to roller skate after super saver closed. Who knows, I may end up making more memories there when my kids stuff me in the nursing home that was there the last time I remember going by there. ROFLMAO!  |
|
Yeah, I'm surprised you watched a hockey game. I missed most of the game last night cause the realtor was over and we spent hours talking more about Utica and old time politics then we did on selling my house. 
:-/ROFL. I mean gee, it's not like he was going to get down on one knee and propose. He was going to get laid and catch the last bus back to N Utica, hahaha.
