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Post by clarencebunsen on Oct 13, 2010 10:11:04 GMT -5
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Post by clarencebunsen on Oct 13, 2010 10:15:33 GMT -5
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Post by dgriffin on Oct 13, 2010 13:28:38 GMT -5
I suppose we should consider that the state signed union contracts that should be honored and it is the insurance companies that are raising the rates, resulting in astronomical projected health care costs. The insurance companies can claim increased health care costs to some extent, but the recent raising of rates in anticipation of Obamacare is not justifiable. Unless you're a businessman.
Given all of that, it is the sheer number of public employees that is daunting. Public buildings grow wider and taller to hold them, parking lots are added on to accommodate their cars. In some towns, like mine, public employees are probably the best paid of all workers.
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Post by clarencebunsen on Oct 13, 2010 14:08:53 GMT -5
One of the things we've seen done in Utica (and I assume other cities) is to use generous future health care provisions as a bargaining chip when negotiating current salaries. That way it can be someone else's problem. As long as it doesn't have to be funded or reported as a liability no one cares.
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Post by dgriffin on Oct 13, 2010 14:41:45 GMT -5
Yup, done all over the place. The School board doesn't want to announce they gave the teachers a certain percentage raise, so they sweeten health benefits and snip some off the pay raise. Or lower the employee contribution, which kicks up the paychecks and sneaks by hiding under the skirts of a smaller percentage raise. Retirement benefits, too. These are especially effective in the bargaining process because the influential teachers doing the bargaining and are often older and thinking about future pensions. That's also one reason most of the contract raise goes to the older teachers, not the young poor ones.
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Post by dgriffin on Oct 13, 2010 16:00:34 GMT -5
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