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Post by lioneljoe on Jan 26, 2010 17:10:34 GMT -5
Mike Arcuri and the Democrats, reeling from a series of stunning defeats have a reveled a divide and conqueror "Strategy" that openly admits that the only way they can win is to support far right republican candidates in order to siphon off enough votes so that the democrat can win a divided three way election. Look for Mike Arcuri, who has never had an original idea, to latch on to this one by supporting a far right candidate here in central NY in order to try to derail Richard Hanna. If you want to know why Mr. Bell just suddenly just showed up from read on... From www.foxnews.comThe memo encourages Democratic candidates to compel their opponents to answer a series of questions on issues that have helped boost the tea party movement and reveal cracks in GOP unity, including health care, taxes and President Obama's citizenship and ideology. Among the questions Democrats should ask Republican candidates: "Do you believe that Barack Obama is a U.S. citizen? Do you think the 10th Amendment bars Congress from issuing regulations like minimum health care coverage standards? Do you think programs like Social Security and Medicare represent socialism and should never have been created in the first place? Do you think President Obama is a socialist? Do you think America should return to a gold standard?" If a Republican answers no to any of the questions, the memo advises Democrats to "make their primary opponent or conservative activists know it. This will cause them to take heat from their primary opponents and could likely provoke a flip-flop, as it already has several times with Mark Kirk in Illinois."
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Post by stoney on Jan 26, 2010 17:33:11 GMT -5
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Post by dgriffin on Jan 26, 2010 18:54:41 GMT -5
I guess the potential success of the strategy quoted by lioneljoe would depend upon how many conservatives tightly hold those extreme views. I'm a conservative and I don't.
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Post by lioneljoe on Jan 26, 2010 20:04:40 GMT -5
Except that it will be the Democrats who will use it as some kind of bizare litmus test.
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Post by dgriffin on Jan 26, 2010 22:53:12 GMT -5
Yes, but my point was the net effect on an election depends upon what portion of conservatives are ultraconservative.
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Post by gearofzanzibar on Jan 27, 2010 1:22:54 GMT -5
Genius. Pure genius.
I look forward in particular to hearing Mr. Arcuri's constitutional reasoning for how the 10th Amendment does, indeed, allow the Federal government to require the purchase of a private good as a condition of citizenship. The citizens of Arizona will be voting on an amendment to their state constitution on exactly that question in November. Would Mr. Arcuri support Arizona's ability to nullify using the 10th? If not, what sanctions from amongst those provided for in the constitution does he propose levying?
Sweet Jebus, I hope they follow through with this.
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Post by Swimmy on Jan 27, 2010 7:57:10 GMT -5
Well, a state's right to nullify federal laws it disagrees with was determined NOT to exist. Many lives were lost during the campaign. It was called the American Civil War.
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Post by Swimmy on Jan 27, 2010 7:59:26 GMT -5
Clearly it's faked! Why block out the certificate number? Nothing private about that. And if it was made in 1961, why is his father's race listed as African? I'm pretty sure political correctness for blacks didn't start in Hawaii in 1961. The above was meant to be sarcastic and humorous.
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Post by dgriffin on Jan 27, 2010 8:13:34 GMT -5
Genius. Pure genius...... Would Mr. Arcuri support Arizona's ability to nullify using the 10th? If not, what sanctions from amongst those provided for in the constitution does he propose levying? Well, we could invade Arizona. Oh, wait! We've already done that with an army of Seniors headed for Phoenix and Sun City. That'll teach 'em.
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Post by dgriffin on Jan 27, 2010 8:27:06 GMT -5
Clearly it's faked! Why block out the certificate number? Nothing private about that. And if it was made in 1961, why is his father's race listed as African? I'm pretty sure political correctness for blacks didn't start in Hawaii in 1961. The above was meant to be sarcastic and humorous.Swimmy, don't scare me like that! I almost believed you. By the way, I was sort of hoping someone would help me out regarding what I mentioned earlier. Exactly how many Conservatives are "ultra" enough to make lioneljoe's description of a Democratic campaign strategy workable? If the vast majority of Conservatives would be swayed by such an argument, then it's a "good" strategy. I just don't believe it would work, because I don't think a large proportion of of voters believe Obama is a not a U.S. citizen, that the 10the Amendment necessarily bars Congress from issuing regulations like minimum health care coverage standards, and programs like Social Security and Medicare represent socialism and should never have been created in the first place, as well as America returning to the gold standard. Or at least would make those election issues. Am I wrong?
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Post by dgriffin on Jan 27, 2010 8:31:31 GMT -5
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Post by yankee on Jan 28, 2010 20:57:30 GMT -5
Arcuri has proven himself to be nothing more than a Pelosi lap dog. He should be ashamed of himself, but then again, this is a lawyer/politician we're talking about.
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Post by stoney on Feb 1, 2010 11:23:05 GMT -5
Got a problem with lawyers, do you?
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Post by lucy on Feb 2, 2010 15:14:35 GMT -5
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Post by dgriffin on Feb 2, 2010 16:45:59 GMT -5
Hanna's barn coat is a nice touch. In the same coat, Arcuri would look like someone being rescued. I won't be voting for either, of course, not living in their district. But I'd say that if the campaign turns on "creating jobs," as Time Magazine suggests, one might as well choose between the barn coat and Arcuri's suit and tie. Neither man has a chance of attracting more jobs to central New York. If the political landscape remains as it is now up to the election, Hanna's best bet will be to pummel Obama and anyone in his shadow.
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