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Post by rodwilson on Aug 24, 2009 22:30:03 GMT -5
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Post by clarencebunsen on Aug 25, 2009 5:32:28 GMT -5
I do recall Mrs. Destito saying that high speed passenger service would allow NY manufacturers to get their goods to market faster.
Oh, did you mean "rationale" that made sense? Sorry, I got nothin'.
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Post by dgriffin on Aug 25, 2009 6:58:01 GMT -5
Tut Tut! Did anyone ask why we built the Washington Monument? Tourism, of course.
And quoting from the OD article, "U.S. Rep. Michael Arcuri, D-Utica, said the funds would help bring the region one step closer to creating more economic security in the area."
Well, that says it all! About Mr. Arcuri, anyway. The man is surely a cardboard cut-out. He bears a creepy resemblance to the 4-ply Kodak girl who used to stand in the window of Luizzi's Drug Store in Cornhill in the 1970's. Could be her brother. Probably her son.
I don't know why I've turned up so insulting to the man. He isn't MY congressman. Just that every time he speaks he says nothing. My God, who the hell did he beat in the election? Gerry Ford? In my mind, he seems the epitome of what Grandma always said we'd get for politicians when she heard they were going to be on television.
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Post by chris on Aug 25, 2009 7:29:57 GMT -5
Europe has a great train system and after using theirs I always wondered why we didn't utilize our s more and effectively. Would cut down on the amount of traffic and polution I thought. Also give people more access to places if they could no longer drive. Right now the train system is too slow here to think of using. I would love to be able to go to NYC for the day or to Canada and not have to drive (or even the Adirondacks) I think Louise Slaughter was pushing for it here.
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Post by snickers on Aug 25, 2009 13:52:29 GMT -5
Europe has a great train system and after using theirs I always wondered why we didn't utilize our s more and effectively. Would cut down on the amount of traffic and polution I thought. Also give people more access to places if they could no longer drive. Right now the train system is too slow here to think of using. I would love to be able to go to NYC for the day or to Canada and not have to drive (or even the Adirondacks) I think Louise Slaughter was pushing for it here. Yeah. Trains were a wonderful mode of travel - back in the 19th Century. |
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Post by Clipper on Aug 25, 2009 16:59:01 GMT -5
Leave it to Roanne Destito to make a dumbass statement. What does she think they will do? Hitch a boxcar on the ass end of a passenger train and snake it down the tracks at over 100mph?
Hey Roanne! "Here's your sign!"
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Post by clarencebunsen on Aug 25, 2009 17:11:48 GMT -5
I have enjoyed train travel in both the US & Germany (never by any of the high speed trains though).
After my last trip by train from Utica to NY, I decided I really didn't enjoy it that much. Scheduled departure time from Utica: around noon. Actual arrival time in Manhatten: 11:30pm. Cost over $100. The passengers from further west on our car were grateful that we had brought along a cooler of sandwiches & beer, the dining car was pretty much out of everything. The conductors stayed away from the "angry mob" so I don't know if they would have objected.
Of course that was better (and cheaper) than my recent 31 hour air trip from Minnesota to upstate NY.
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Post by rodwilson on Aug 26, 2009 12:25:36 GMT -5
clarencebunsen sir, I owe you an apology. You were kind enough to respond to a question I had regarding Freemasonry and I failed to follow up and have since "lost" which thread it was in but I'd most sincerely like to continue that exchange.
I just don't see it at all. It seems that it would only take from areas such as ours. The reality is that no-one is going to come here. We'd all use it to go spend our $$$ somewhere else.
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Post by clarencebunsen on Aug 26, 2009 19:34:36 GMT -5
To me the first step is to determine what we want a rail system to do and then decide how to do it and how to fund it. Our current approach seems to be, let's spend $4billion on the rail system in New York and see what we can get for it. One result is a suggestion for a high speed train with stops in Syracuse, Rome & Utica.
One approach might be to design a system to siphon passengers from O'Hare. Would a spine from St. Louis to Philadelphia with spurs to Minneapolis, Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland-Buffalo, and Albany with a tie to the East Coast Accella do it?
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Post by dgriffin on Aug 26, 2009 21:25:47 GMT -5
There's only so much freight and so many people moving across the landscape at any given point in time. Only lower costs ... not at all predicted for high speed rail ... or an economic miracle will increase that traffic. So, super trains would have to take traffic away from air and truck lines.
Does anyone think these companies and their unionized workers are going to let that happen? Not in a system that is fast becoming socialistic.
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Post by Ralph on Aug 28, 2009 2:13:52 GMT -5
“Making high speed rail a reality in Upstate New York will increase jobs, improve passenger rail service, and allow business to operate more effectively and efficiently across the state,” Arcuri said. “This process is ongoing and I look forward to the success high-speed rail will bring to our communities in the near future.”
He has a better chance of seeing the face of God than this every coming to fruition.
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Post by clarencebunsen on Aug 28, 2009 5:17:49 GMT -5
Mr. Arcuri's statement might make sense if he defines "near future" in geologic time scale rather than human time scale.
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Post by lrtill on Aug 28, 2009 7:11:35 GMT -5
my aunt bought stock in some company in the 50's or 60's that was going to bring high speed monorail service to NYC. It hasn't happened yet. I think my mom still has the stock somewhere. maybe i'll look it up in case I run out of TP.
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Post by Ralph on Aug 28, 2009 23:35:34 GMT -5
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