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Post by rodwilson on Jun 17, 2009 19:41:17 GMT -5
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Post by Clipper on Jun 17, 2009 20:12:21 GMT -5
Can't wait to see it Rod. They recalled the Bristol Tn mayor about 6 years ago or so, along with two council persons. It was very interesting and brought voters out of the woodwork for the recall election. Bluff City Tn has also held recall proceedings and has recalled their mayor in past years. People here simply don't put up with that corrupt bullshit from their politicians here in the South. Dave Roefaro is such a pompous, self serving, ass that he would be a prime candidate to be knocked of his high horse by a recall election. I would laugh so hard and clap so loud here in Tennessee that you would here me in Utica NY. ;D It sends a message to those people that they don't have free reign after they are elected, and DO have to answer to the people that elected them or they get "UNELECTED".  I think that Larry Tanoury Jr would make a wonderful mayor, and would definitely be the first honest breath of fresh air to hit city hall in many years. Just a thought, haha. Just thought that I would plant that little seed.  Either for a recall replacement for Roefaro, or for his replacement in the next regularly scheduled election. Larry may disagree with me, LOL  |
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Post by rodwilson on Jun 17, 2009 20:26:35 GMT -5
Not mine Clipper so I'm interested to see it as well. My hopes are that this awakes a sleeping giant in the form of the people. The situation has def caused some stimulation.
Bristol, was that the sewer deal? My bad, I think that was Birmingham.
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Post by rodwilson on Jun 17, 2009 20:30:56 GMT -5
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Post by Clipper on Jun 17, 2009 20:42:39 GMT -5
Bristol's recall was precipitated by a real estate deal near the Speedway. They conspired to take several parcels of privately owned land by eminent domain, with the idea in mind of passing it to a developer for condos and such. Fortunately, Tennessee law only allows eminent domain to be used to obtain land for "public good" such as when necessary for a utility right of way, or for use as a park, school or some "necessary" purpose, and then a fair price must be paid for the land. They were offering a mere pittance, compared to what the land is worth, being across the street from the NASCAR speedway. It seems to me since moving here, that any development on that side of town, near the speedway, is met by the city annexing the land, so they can add any profit making venture to the city tax rolls.
The mayor and council persons involved in the scheme were recalled, and the landowners prevailed and kept their land. One landowner SOLD land to the developer and there is a condo develpment directly across the road from the speedway. It is said that with only two races a year here, and two weeks of full occupancy, the condos fill during race weeks and it is enough to make it profitable. I can't believe anyone having enough money to have a condo that they only use two weeks a year that is not in a location to be a desirable timeshare.
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Post by rodwilson on Jun 17, 2009 20:54:56 GMT -5
I just don't know how people think that they can get away with this stuff (because they do I guess).
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Post by Clipper on Jun 17, 2009 21:24:36 GMT -5
Because in most cases WE LET THEM. I hope that something is done in this particular situation. This is simply a travesty and an insult to anyone possessing even a thread of common decency.
Complacency breeds this kind of crap. People simply don't take an interest in politics enough any more to learn about the candidate that they vote for. Many don't even bother to vote at all, but many of those that do, have no idea what the candidate's platform is all about, and they vote based on one speech or another, or on someone else's urging.
People probably wonder why the hell I am so sold on Larry Tanoury Jr. Well, even living in Tennessee, I am interested in area Politics up there and intend to return there as soon as we are able. I became interested in Larry's career and his campaign after reading some of his ideas on the web. I then linked to his campaign website and followed his campaign through the entire process and was glad to see him elected.
I also was adamantly opposed to Julian's re-election, and read and supported Dave Roefaro in his bid for mayor. Mostly because I was AGAINST Julian, and the alternative was Roefaro. I followed Roefaro's campaign, read all that was written about him or expressed in the media. I was confident he was the answer. Boy was I wrong. He has certainly turned out to be a major disappointment to those that had hopes for him as a light at the end of a Julian reign.
I hope that someone is able to burst the balloon of this wannabe power broker and show him that he is but a minnow in the pond local power, and if real power were dynamite, Roefaro could not work up enough power to form a decent fart. I think he is suffering from over exposure to the gases of decomposition and embalming fluid.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2009 22:50:41 GMT -5
One can only hope that Roefaro decides not to run again. He has done absolutely nothing for this city, & in my opinion is incompetent. But, this deal is the biggest farce ever perpetrated on the citizens of this city. A mayor that has the balls to use the police dept. as a political football in order to take care of a childhood friend should be run out of town. I think this goes to Roefaro's character. He has the chutzpah to overlook two well qualified candidates, in order to give the job to his buddy who is clearly not qualified, then stands up there & lies to the community without blinking an eye. Roefaro likes to talk about "public safety". It's all bullshit. If he cared about public safety, he would have hired a qualified person to run the UPD.
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Post by rodwilson on Jun 17, 2009 23:22:10 GMT -5
I've heard he's a nice guy. What he's done in office is just unreal. I really have tried to avoid being insulting (  ) but I can't figure out if they're that crooked or that dumb. And I say that because if the has just made a SERIES of terrible decisions I might be a little more ? sympathetic? Yeh, right! Was it someone here in this forum that suggested that the OD ran the mob stories in preface to perhaps a new expose? What are folks takes on the media coverage of this? Who are they spinning for? Us or them? |
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Post by Swimmy on Jun 18, 2009 7:15:10 GMT -5
2800 signatures? that's doable. May take awhile, but it's doable.
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Post by Swimmy on Jun 18, 2009 8:42:29 GMT -5
I volunteered for Julian's re-election campaign. I did a lot of the research underlying roefaro. After about six weeks, I realized that roefaro would be much worse than even hanna! He was involved in politics long before Julian showed up on the scene. And when roefaro served on the utica school board, he missed the majority of meetings and rarely showed up to his committee meetings (often relying on the minutes to give a report). His defense was that he went to all the state mandated ones. I knew then he was a horrible choice.
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Post by rodwilson on Jun 18, 2009 12:03:32 GMT -5
"It’s just more rhetoric," Roefaro said of the site. "More nonsense. Something more to distract us from the important things we do every day. I don’t have time to listen to the nonsense of these people." Are you kidding me? This guy is a JOKE! "The nonsense of these people". WOW. He actually believes that this is a small minority? Not to mention his complete disregard and insulting manner toward his constituancy. Angelo says he in NYC talking to developers, hah, hiding out chicken shit bastard! Who's HE talking to in NYC? www.uticaod.com/news/x737332737/Website-advocates-Mayors-recall |
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Post by lucy on Jun 18, 2009 12:16:01 GMT -5
I don't live in Utica but I don't understand how anyone could put up with this clown.
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Post by Swimmy on Jun 23, 2009 21:51:07 GMT -5
If anyone is serious about trying to overturn the appointment, they have 90 days to file a notice of claim from the date the claim accrued (June 17?) and then one year to file an Article 78 petition to compel roefaro to comply with civil service law.
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Post by lefty on Jun 25, 2009 23:16:16 GMT -5
I think he will be a good Chief of Police, the Best Test taker doesnt mean that person will make the best Chief. Most of your better test taker's were not that effective street cops, ask anybody on the force they will tell you the same. There are other factor to consider, like leadership ability, job knowledge, courage, self discipline, self respect, respect for others, and most important COMMON SENCE!
Good Luck Chief LaBella!
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Either for a recall replacement for Roefaro, or for his replacement in the next regularly scheduled election. Larry may disagree with me, LOL 
) but I can't figure out if they're that crooked or that dumb. And I say that because if the has just made a SERIES of terrible decisions I might be a little more ? sympathetic? Yeh, right!
