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Post by watcher on Jun 2, 2009 6:32:32 GMT -5
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Post by dgriffin on Jun 2, 2009 7:03:38 GMT -5
That's Stephanie Berberick again, a reporter willing to work at gathering and reporting. I think she's done an excellent piece of work.
An aside, doesn't this statement (in the story) appear strange?
"The names and specifics of the crimes committed could not be made available to UDN because of the N.Y. Public Officers Law, which excludes some information from public access citing confidentiality, such as the names of convicts."
Since when has convicted criminal activity been 'confidential.'
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Post by Clipper on Jun 2, 2009 9:22:20 GMT -5
That is absolutely ridiculous Dave. The names are published when they are arrested, when they are convicted, and sex offenders are registered and their names are made public to make neighbors aware when an offender moves into their neighborhood.
I assume that sex offenders are outed to the neighbors in order for the neighbors to protect their children and for them to take precautions.
Don't we think that a murderer or an arsonist on your block might be a threat to our well being, and don't we think that neighbors should be aware that the neighbor that they are arguing with over a loud stereo, may lose it and burn their house down or kill them? Do these people really think they are doing something positive by putting arsonists into a city that already has a bountiful crop of home grown ones, without importing any? Are they not doing the citizens of the city a disservice by withholding the information pertaining to the offenses committed by these paroled felons?
How many of these people are locally grown, and how many are simply those from other areas, being dumped on the streets of Utica, and on the social programs of Oneida County?
I am sure that these people have a right to operate such a program. I agree with Mike Rizzo and others though that think the program should be run somewhere else besides a residential area and a historic area.
Kudos to Stephanie and the UDN staff for one more instance of great investigative reporting. Keep up the good work!
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Post by concerned on Jun 2, 2009 10:28:02 GMT -5
Yes but the Food Bank, Hope House, Mother Marianne's Soup Kitchen, Hospitality Row are also operated in residential area's of the city. I know that the clients in these programs come from shady backgrounds and they feed or cloth or give other services to people who have been in jails and prisons for some of the same crimes as those listed. Even The Emergency Shelter draws on many of the same people. Where should we place those agencies who want to do outreach programs to help these people. I know two guys who are very elderly now but in there younger lives where sex offenders and both live in an apartment house near me. And there is a park right in the middle. I guess that because they are in there 80's its safe.lol  And why am I thinking about the song: Its a beautiful day in our neighborhood, by Mr Roger's. |
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Post by Clipper on Jun 2, 2009 10:35:38 GMT -5
Hmmm, in their 80's? Sounds like a perfect environment for them to be arrested in the park for "assault with a dead weapon"! LOL
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Post by concerned on Jun 2, 2009 10:44:01 GMT -5
lol....... We have a singing group called the Silvertone's that will be entertaining us seniors in a few days. They are all in there 70's and 80's. I just wanted to know if they sang topless.
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Post by snickers on Jun 12, 2009 20:49:04 GMT -5
Once a convict's prison sentence is served, hasn't he "paid his debt to Society"? How and where does an ex-con establish his "new life"? If he is truly unredeemable, why let him out of prison? If some crimes are truly unforgiveable, why not employ the death penalty?
Can't have it both ways. Just sayin'.
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Post by corner on Jun 12, 2009 21:30:47 GMT -5
in my time on the streets of utica as a parole officer i relied heavily on the rescue mission and its programs to provide temporary shelter to a parolee who was homeless they had rules about no arsonists or convicted child molesters the problem stems from a disgruntled neighbor who really thinks rutger street is goin to enjoy the heyday of the late 1800s early 1900s ... if he dont like the hood he should move im sure some agency would be happy to have his house for offices
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Post by Ralph on Jun 15, 2009 1:57:13 GMT -5
Well.......considering that some people are allowing an ex-felon convicted of fraud to hold a legislative seat and run for a public office which manages our tax monies .........what can you expect. I suppose the old adage " keep your friends close and your enemies closer" comes to mind.  |
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Post by dgriffin on Jun 15, 2009 8:38:08 GMT -5
I suppose the old adage "keep your friends close and your enemies closer" comes to mind. [/size][/quote] Or maybe: "Keep your friends close and your enemies in jail."  |
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