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Post by Disgusted-Daily on May 3, 2009 0:41:19 GMT -5
Recently NYSCOPBA the Union for State Correction Officers called out for the Governor and the Commissioner to suspend visits in the prisons for 2-weeks, until they get a better control on the flu. The request was denied. The State has decided to continue visits as usual, bring these people from NY City on numerous charter buses that the tax payers flip the bill for. Now the tax payers may even have to flip the bill to pay medical cost for the infected convicts and to the Officers and who ever else it will infect in upstate New York. To think nobody wants to live in New York State with such a great Government.  |
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Post by clarencebunsen on May 3, 2009 5:31:43 GMT -5
Can the prison's at least discourage people from visiting if they have flue-like symptoms as the hospitals have done?
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Post by dgriffin on May 3, 2009 9:12:49 GMT -5
The cost of a free society, such as it is. Otherwise the state could ship prisoners anywhere, or think up any reason to hold them incommunicado, to the detriment of individual rights.
Yes, Todd, I know, they're pretty bad dudes, but start removing their rights and ours will be next.
More than a matter of whose power is being removed, it's whose power is increased.
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Post by Disgusted-Daily on May 3, 2009 11:20:52 GMT -5
Can the prison's at least discourage people from visiting if they have flue-like symptoms as the hospitals have done? It should be common sense to stay home and not come and infect their so called loved one.  |
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Post by Disgusted-Daily on May 3, 2009 11:31:32 GMT -5
Dave,
I understand what your saying but I can not compare my rights with a person that gave up his when he committed and was convicted of a felony from a Judge in good standing and a jury of his peers. That's when they lost their rights and became property of NY State.
This also has the potential of disrupting the safety and security of the Prison along with upstate NY and literally cost the tax payers millions. This shouldn't be any different than closing schools or any other functions.
This should be a common sense decision that is best for all with a little less consideration for a convicted felon.
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Post by Clipper on May 3, 2009 12:58:14 GMT -5
I agree with ya Todd. It should be compared to closing schools and such to avoid the spread. We don't need those folks from the city to bring it to the area. I am sure it will find it's own way there eventually, and hopefully not in pandemic proportion in the prisons.
Being confined to a dormitory situation with a flu such as this going around is bad. The state should be doing all they can, including cutting out visitation temporarily. A pandemic among corrections officers can cause a security problem, and a pandemic among inmates could be deadly and expensive to treat.
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Post by dgriffin on May 3, 2009 12:59:11 GMT -5
Good points, Todd, and I won't argue the dangers and safty issues with you, since you would know best.
Sitting comfortably here miles from a prison, I took the larger view regading the rights of citizens in a republic, whether convicted or not. I know you agree with that, but you have to deal with the particulars on a daily basis.
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Post by snickers on May 19, 2009 13:28:01 GMT -5
I agree with ya Todd. It should be compared to closing schools and such to avoid the spread. We don't need those folks from the city to bring it to the area. I am sure it will find it's own way there eventually, and hopefully not in pandemic proportion in the prisons. Being confined to a dormitory situation with a flu such as this going around is bad. The state should be doing all they can, including cutting out visitation temporarily. A pandemic among corrections officers can cause a security problem, and a pandemic among inmates could be deadly and expensive to treat. If hospitals and nursing homes can close their doors to visitors in order to protect the health of those living there, the prisons can most certainly do the same. It's not a matter of rights being denied, it's a matter of protecting both the public AND the inmates! It's just common sense! ......or it oughta be.....  |
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Post by bobbbiez on May 19, 2009 14:41:04 GMT -5
 Not that I agree with this but the problem here is other then a few schools in NYC no other facilities were closed as far as I know.  Don't know what ever happened to being quarantined with such an infectious disease.  I know back in the 60's and 70's when I worked at Faxton Hospital, it didn't take much to close the hospital to visitors for the protection of all. Procedures sure have changed and not for the better. Never seen so many cases in our hospitals of Shingles, Mrsa and Staph infections in all my many years of nursing.
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Post by dgriffin on May 19, 2009 17:15:22 GMT -5
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Post by bobbbiez on May 19, 2009 21:03:57 GMT -5
Well, thank you Dave.  I guess your title of "Angel of Death" would better suit me since my last patient, my Lady, just passed away a few weeks ago just a few days before her 100 birthday. After I left Faxton in the 70's I went into private duty for terminally ill patients. Just felt more personal and useful to both my patients and their families. I loved my job and fell in love with most of my patients. My Lady was my last patient I'd serve. I officially retired with her passing. 
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Post by snickers on Jun 12, 2009 20:56:31 GMT -5
It would appear that, as of today's observations, the answer to this thread's question is,"No." NYC, which seems to be the center of infection here in the US is very reluctant to release names and locations of sick victims and casualties - all to 'protect' the privacy of those involved. That's surely not sound disease management! But it IS Politically Correct, and face it, PC-ness will be the death of all of us!
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Post by snickers on Jun 12, 2009 21:01:30 GMT -5
Well, thank you Dave. I guess your title of "Angel of Death" would better suit me since my last patient, my Lady, just passed away a few weeks ago just a few days before her 100 birthday. After I left Faxton in the 70's I went into private duty for terminally ill patients. Just felt more personal and useful to both my patients and their families. I loved my job and fell in love with most of my patients. My Lady was my last patient I'd serve. I officially retired with her passing. If I may, please accept my most humble appreciation and expression of respect for your service. Nursing is a calling that few can perform well.That you so willingly gave of yourself, comforting people in their pain and during their final hours, deserves much praise and thanks. |
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Not that I agree with this but the problem here is other then a few schools in NYC no other facilities were closed as far as I know. 
