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Post by snickers on May 5, 2009 8:29:21 GMT -5
The only example I see mistaken in Swimmy's post is the Bohlert to Arcuri succession. I doubt that Republican Boehlert would have picked a Democrat successor, but then again, anything is possible today. Boehlert being the blatant RINO that he was, Arcuri ascending to his throne didn't surprise me one bit. |
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Post by bobbbiez on May 5, 2009 22:04:26 GMT -5
 Swimmy.... "exactly how hard and diligently is Utica looking to hire a competent and qualified police chief? Why has it been a couple of years and no replacement?" Plyman left in June of 2008 so it hasn't even been a year. Then a test had to be arranged for all qualified candidates to take. The results of that test will be in very soon and we will have a new Police Chief. From what I see there are two prime candidates in becoming the next Utica Police Chief and both are highly qualified, experienced and dedicated in their jobs in the UPD. I speak of Deputy Chief Mark Williams and Mike Bailey. My personal opinion, both are equally capable of handling the job of Police Chief and handling it extremely well. I would not want to have to choose between the two of them. Both are great choices for the job. Working very closely with PSC Dan LaBella and the UPD within this last year through the Neighborhood Watch Groups I have to give him kudos for helping to improve things in our neighborhoods. The private citizen and the Police department is finally working well together in solving the problems that have plagued us for too long. That alone is something I have not seen in many moons. As a resident of Utica, if it took time to find the best man for the job I have no complaints and as a taxpayer here in Utica I know PSC LaBella did a good job and also saved us money because he is not being paid the salary normally received by a Chief. 
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Post by frankcor on May 6, 2009 14:33:56 GMT -5
It's hard to argue with results.
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Post by Swimmy on May 8, 2009 9:16:23 GMT -5
Swimmy.... "exactly how hard and diligently is Utica looking to hire a competent and qualified police chief? Why has it been a couple of years and no replacement?" Plyman left in June of 2008 so it hasn't even been a year. Then a test had to be arranged for all qualified candidates to take. The results of that test will be in very soon and we will have a new Police Chief. From what I see there are two prime candidates in becoming the next Utica Police Chief and both are highly qualified, experienced and dedicated in their jobs in the UPD. I speak of Deputy Chief Mark Williams and Mike Bailey. My personal opinion, both are equally capable of handling the job of Police Chief and handling it extremely well. I would not want to have to choose between the two of them. Both are great choices for the job. Working very closely with PSC Dan LaBella and the UPD within this last year through the Neighborhood Watch Groups I have to give him kudos for helping to improve things in our neighborhoods. The private citizen and the Police department is finally working well together in solving the problems that have plagued us for too long. That alone is something I have not seen in many moons. As a resident of Utica, if it took time to find the best man for the job I have no complaints and as a taxpayer here in Utica I know PSC LaBella did a good job and also saved us money because he is not being paid the salary normally received by a Chief. I stand corrected. For me, time flies. I feel like I've been practicing for a long time, but I will have only been a licensed attorney for one year this June 16! Glad to see that there is progress being made. The last I read, Roefaro was attempted to do away with the civil service exam requirement so that LaBella could take it over... |
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Post by bobbbiez on May 8, 2009 10:48:24 GMT -5
Not going to happen. 
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Post by Clipper on May 8, 2009 10:54:40 GMT -5
Gee Bobbbiez. There are names listed in today's article that we went to school with or knew in our younger days. A couple of them were acquaintances in the 70's and one of them I would never have suspected of much more than being a wannabe. Hmm. Interesting, but non-productive to bring it back to light, for the sake of those that have gone beyond it and for their families.
There are two ways to look at it, but when you get up into the 70's we are simply picking a scab of unpleasantness as I said before.
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Post by bobbbiez on May 8, 2009 11:14:39 GMT -5
Clipper, no matter what some might think or feel, it is a big part of Utica's history and many are interested in reading about it. Sure you and I lived through much of it but the younger generation did not and do want to read about it. No matter what we learn about the history of anything there is always some "picking a scab of unpleasantness' but that goes with the territory and if one is involved in history making then I guess one just has to suck it up. It boils down to some are interested in the series and some are not, but the majority are reading it.
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Post by Clipper on May 8, 2009 11:52:55 GMT -5
Well, although I don't approve of the series, I am also reading it. I just don't think it is very "proud history", and I am not really too enthused about reliving it in the OD. I guess part of it is my dislike of the OD and the way it is run. It is about the sorriest newspaper I have ever read, and IT also has a proud history that is tarnished by todays management and the quality of news it publishes. Many of the old timers that worked there, must roll in their graves when they see the way Donna runs the place, and the poor quality, biased news that they cover.
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Post by bobbbiez on May 8, 2009 12:10:53 GMT -5
Hey Kiddo, no area or persons can brag about having complete "proud history" and we've all learn to suck it up. I have learned one thing throughout my many moons. The good does always out shine the bad and the bad is necessary for us to learn from, so not to make the same mistakes from the past. Hopefully, that's what history, bad or good, should teach us.
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Post by dgriffin on May 8, 2009 18:54:42 GMT -5
Wow! I'm just impressed Louis King lived through all those bullets!
The article raises the question whether a lot of these "wise guys" were wannabe's or the real McCoy (I guess that would be the real MaCoynelli.) But when they've got a gun to your head,
I guess it doesn't matter.
Whether you're for or against the series, I'd say it is typical newspaper fare. Why blame the OD for printing what any other local newspaper would print.
Someone made the point (Clipper?) in this thread or elsewhere, that the OD is prejudiced against Utica and for New Hartford. I find that idea intriguing. Would whoever made it like to amplify that thought? I'd be interested.
I saw an example of it here in my area once. While a particular editor should have been waving the flag for the town in which his newspaper was situated ... or remaining quiet ... he instead was forever touting what people in an adjacent town did right. It was a rather strange drama. The paper's publisher did nothing about for a while, because it still sold newspapers while pissing people off. Which was what he was interested in. If I were a conspiracist, I might believe that was his purpose. Eventually the publisher gave the editor his walking papers, but only after getting tired of the complaints from advertisers, the only people who really matter to a newspaper company.
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Post by jrcummings on Jun 28, 2009 23:27:49 GMT -5
Wow I would love to read this. I've heard about Rufus Elefante. I've also heard stories from my 7th grade Social Studies teacher. Bobby maybe your daughter had him as a teacher too. His name was Mr. Lee, his parents immigrated from Siciley around the corrupt times and he use to share stories of Utica back then. I just love the past, that's why I want to read this.
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Post by Clipper on Jun 29, 2009 9:40:12 GMT -5
Mr. Charles Lee. I had him for social studies at Seymour in the late 50's, along with a strange and very nervous little man named Stephen Zizzi for science.
I can still remember having him put his hand over mine to show me how to do the "ovals" for Palmer Method Writing. I always had a hard time with keeping my wrist in the air and letting my whole arm move when writing. I hated it then, but in later years, my bosses always remarked how readable and good my handwriting was. Hell, Nobody writes anything anymore, so it is a lost skill, haha.
Charles Lee was the brother of Dr. Lee, who was a well known area physician for years and years. Mr Lee always wanted to take me to NYC for the weekend, and my mom and dad were suspicious and would not let me go. They thought he was gay, and he could have been, but he never did anything inappropriate, and was a wonderful teacher.He spent a lot of his weekends in NYC seeing shows, and wanted to take me to a broadway show.
While we are hijacking the thread, I might as well ask if you had Mrs. Salerno for English (Bobey Salerno's wife), or Mr. Sohacki (can't remember what he taught. Then there was Mr. Arthur Jones who was the principal. A little "bulldog" looking guy from Frankfort Center, who wielded a bad assed paddle if you got caught smoking or throwing snowballs.LOL
Well, welcome back JR and it is always good to hear from ya. I wish you were going to be there for the picnic at Lake Delta on August 2nd. I would love to meet ya face to face and shake your paw my friend. I make a point of shaking the paw of every soldier I encounter, along with telling them thank you for their service to our country in these troubled times.
Have a great day JR. Glad to hear about your latest adventures and once again know where you are at.
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Post by jrcummings on Jun 29, 2009 22:08:32 GMT -5
Yes that was his name Mr. Charles Lee. He was like 1000 when he was my teacher lol. He used to always give out flavored Tootsie Rolls for correct answers. I thought he was a bit strange myself, he was 1000 and not married, he still lived in the house he grew up in, in East Utica. Oh and Barb I apologize for mistyping your name.
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Post by Clipper on Jul 1, 2009 11:13:08 GMT -5
Yep. I think Mr Lee was only in his late 900's when I had him for a teacher. He lived with his mother in the old family homestead in East Utica. He was a good teacher, and I had forgotten about the candy. In my time, he had one day a week that he brought treats for his class. I was in his homeroom. Was Mrs. Ingraham (math) Mrs. Byrne(math), Mr George (social studies), Mr Garraty (gym) and Mrs. Mandeville (music) still there when you went there?
Wow, what memories this brings back. Going to Moe Shequin's store for snacks during lunch or to the dairy isle for a hot dog or ice cream. Back of Fritos and a coke, 25 cents. Tomato pie, 15 cents. Ice cream cone at dairy isle, 15 cents small, 25 cents large. There was also New's store on Deerfield corners before they redid the corners. Mrs. New ran it and they were another place to buy penny candy and soda etc.
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Post by rodwilson on Jul 1, 2009 11:18:14 GMT -5
What's "penny candy"? |
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Swimmy.... "exactly how hard and diligently is Utica looking to hire a competent and qualified police chief? Why has it been a couple of years and no replacement?"
