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Post by Clipper on Feb 10, 2009 15:15:47 GMT -5
The OD carries a story today about a 21 year old man from Rome that molested a 4 year old.
Man accused of having sexual contact with 4-year-old
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Posted Feb 10, 2009 @ 11:22 AM
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UTICA —
A Rome man has been arrested after he allegedly had sexual contact with a 4-year-old child, according to state police.
Michael S. Scarafile, 21, was charged Saturday with first-degree criminal sexual act and endangering the welfare of a child following an incident that allegedly occurred in the city of Rome earlier that day, police said.
The arrest followed an investigation by the New York State Police, Rome police, and the Oneida County Child Advocacy Center.
The alleged victim currently is receiving services through the Child Advocacy Center.
I guess my first question to anyone who would do this, is "what the hell sexual attraction is there to an sexually undeveloped, and immature infant?" It damned sure is a sick mind that would even conceive of the idea to perpetrate such a thing on a kid 4 years old.
Our world is becoming a really dangerous place to raise children. Another family has a young man in jail, and first and foremost, a family has a little girl whose life has been changed forever. No matter how much therapy and counseling she gets, she will ALWAYS remember the incident.
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Post by frankcor on Feb 10, 2009 15:38:55 GMT -5
This kind of crime has more to do with power and control than it does with sex.
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Post by Swimmy on Feb 10, 2009 16:27:16 GMT -5
If you think that's intolerable, clipper, you should read some of the horror stories coming out of the war torn parts of Africa. There, the mothers have to worry about their infants -- INFANTS -- being raped!
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Post by gearofzanzibar on Feb 10, 2009 17:28:57 GMT -5
I guess my first question to anyone who would do this, is "what the hell sexual attraction is there to an sexually undeveloped, and immature infant?" It damned sure is a sick mind that would even conceive of the idea to perpetrate such a thing on a kid 4 years old. I've become steadily convinced that treating pedophilia as a crime is a huge mistake. It's an untreatable mental illness that is a permanent part of someone's psyche. Punishment isn't going to fix the short-circuit in their brains. I'm well aware of the history of abuse in asylums, but there's something to be said for having a facility where generally non-violent offenders like pedophiles can be locked up for their natural lives away from society. The safest approach for the general public, and the compassionate approach for the pedophiles themselves, is to keep them away from children. Forever. |
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Post by Swimmy on Feb 10, 2009 20:45:09 GMT -5
Under current mental hygiene law, there are already provisions to civilly confine pedophiles. I think, in terms of public policy, it would be difficult and/or unwise to do away with the criminal component to pedophilia. But there is case law to support a showing that pedophilia is a mental illness that poses a danger to not only the public but to pedophiles too. There is a high rate of recidivism among pedophiles, according to some psychological studies and the DSM IV. So there is support to do what you suggest, and it is already being done.
Chief Administrative Judge for the 5th Judicial District, Judge Tormey, has paved the way with sex offender confinement hearings where convicted sex offenders who still pose a risk to the public are provided a 2 week jury trial to determine whether they should be confined in a mental institution.
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Post by bobbbiez on Feb 10, 2009 22:28:05 GMT -5
 Swimmy, was going to state the same. Ya beat me to it. ;D The State has buildings going up to hold the sex offenders as we speak. Many are already done and are holding the offenders past their times served. The problem is not being ignored and even when one is released they are now monitored very carefully. 
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Post by Swimmy on Feb 10, 2009 23:35:11 GMT -5
I try to be quick on my toes |
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Post by Clipper on Feb 11, 2009 0:10:18 GMT -5
You are just a regular Fred Astaire Swimmy, LOL |
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Post by gearofzanzibar on Feb 11, 2009 2:18:02 GMT -5
Under current mental hygiene law, there are already provisions to civilly confine pedophiles. I think, in terms of public policy, it would be difficult and/or unwise to do away with the criminal component to pedophilia. But there is case law to support a showing that pedophilia is a mental illness that poses a danger to not only the public but to pedophiles too. There is a high rate of recidivism among pedophiles, according to some psychological studies and the DSM IV. So there is support to do what you suggest, and it is already being done. I think the civil confinement concept is a definite move in the right direction. Believe me, I have no sympathy for pedophiles, but I think there are two factors that make them different from regular criminals. One, their behavior is hardwired and unchangeable. Two, most of them are harmless as long as they aren't around children. Punishment won't change them, but isolation can prevent them from becoming predators and, ideally, allow them to have something approaching a productive life. |
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Post by concerned on Feb 11, 2009 11:16:48 GMT -5
guess my first question to anyone who would do this, is "what the hell sexual attraction is there to an sexually undeveloped, and immature infant?" It damned sure is a sick mind that would even conceive of the idea to perpetrate such a thing on a kid 4 years old.
They are mentally ill and need treatment for the rest of there lives. They also should not be released and allowed to live amongst society. For them seeing a young boy or young girl is a very intense turn-on and once the biochemical link is connected in the brain ther appetite for sexual satisfaction even if they know they can get caught, must be fulfilled.
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Post by Swimmy on Feb 11, 2009 13:16:34 GMT -5
I understand your point, gear. But it is still a crime against the child. The predator is still stealing the child's innocence and inability to be a child. Molesting a child robs the child of the ability to differentiate between good and bad. The criminal component is there to protect the child and in theory make the predator re-pay his or her debt to society for decimating the child victim. Part of that repayment of debt is to civilly confine the person in a mental facility to isolate the pedophile from children. But the public policy to protect our youth is very strong and I think it renders moot any argument to decriminalize sex crimes against children.
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Post by lucy on Feb 11, 2009 13:20:58 GMT -5
I say make it easier and just shoot them. Why should they deserve to live, eat, sleep and breath on our dime? This is one thing that I can't budge on, anyone who hurts and innocent child doesn't deserve to live.
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Post by Ralph on Feb 12, 2009 2:21:01 GMT -5
DITTO!!!
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Swimmy, was going to state the same. Ya beat me to it. ;D
