Governor Palin Attacked for Hunting?

[bobbbiez]

Check this out: EyeOnPalin.org

Can't for the life of me figure out how Governor Palin calls this hunting. Shooting or maiming any animal from a plane is not hunting in my book.

I personally don't like the thought of any animal being hunted unless used for food. I say, each to their own, but seeing this video made me sick.

Knowing any Governor would approve of this makes me even sicker. This is not hunting! This is slaughtering poor defenseless animals. Governor Palin should be ashamed of herself. There is nothing to justify her beliefs in defending this hunting? policy.

[clarencebunsen]

Should this video be paired with one of a wolf pack taking down and tearing apart a moose or caribou? My understanding is that this is not a "hunting" program but a "predator control" program.

I don'r hunt but anyone who has used a mouse trap has inflicted as much pain as I saw in the video.

[dgriffin]

I think the most profound thing about this is what a beautiful woman like Ashley Judd can get away with. Has anyone kept a log of her various righteous pronouncements?

[bobbbiez]

Clarence, the other video you described is nature taking care of it's own business. Hunting from a plane and shooting or maiming any animal is not acceptable in my book, especially when it's been proven in the past when man gets involved in nature by putting controls on some animals it's not too far down the road where that breed is placed on the endangered species list.

Remind me never to use the mouse traps you referred to. I personally use the plastic trap containers where they can be let go in another area.

[clarencebunsen]

Does that save them or allow them to get eaten by an owl while they are wandering in unfamiliar territoty?

[bobbbiez]

That's nature's way. ;D

[dgriffin]

Where did I read that there are today more deer in NY State than there was in the 1700's.
Nature may take care of it's own, but Nature didn't count on the terrific food sources provided by
farmers and homeowners (shrubbery) over the past 200+ years.

[bobbbiez]

Dave, I fully understand that. Even though "hunting" isn't my thing, I have nothing against, "hunting," especially if you use the meat of the kill.

With Palin we are not talking about "hunting." We are talking about putting bounties on animals and shooting and maiming them from planes. That is not "hunting" to me. Can't see it in any other way. It's slaughtering and it's causing God's given creatures unnecessary suffering.

I'm sure there are other humane ways Palin could use to correct the problem her State has.

[corner]

Feb 7, 2009 20:27:11 GMT -5 @dgriffin said:

I think the most profound thing about this is what a beautiful woman like Ashley Judd can get away with. Has anyone kept a log of her various righteous pronouncements?

got to make up for the butt ugly sister wynona

[corner]

bobbie i too love animals some of em are pretty tasty lol

[bobbbiez]

Hey Corner, you're talking to a girl that was raised on rabbits, chickens, goats and venison. The men in my family were "hunters" but would never ever consider aerial killing.

Actually, my most favorite meat over venison is goat meat. I had it for the first time when my Dad took me to Trinkus Manor for the annual Sheriff's Game Dinner where we tried every meat possible you could find on this planet. I miss those dinners with my Pop.

I'll be having my favorite meat again when we go to Jamaica in a few weeks. Goat is a main meat on their menu and is absolutely delicious there. It also makes a gravy one will die for. ;D

[clarencebunsen]

When I first read this thread my thought was, "Why does Ashley Judd hate caribou so much?" Why does she want them to die being torn apart by wolves at the end of an exhausting and terrifying chase instead of dying of old age or starvation as nature intended.

The terrified bleats of this calf haunted me



I woke up at night wondering, "How will I tell Gabby that Rudolph's baby was eaten by a wolf?" I am not familiar with Ms. Judd's work other than her anti-caribou crusade but I had to wonder, "Why is Ashley Judd such a monster?"

Then while reading a Scientific American interview of biologist Shawn Haskell, a light shined down upon me & I was enlightened. Mr. Haskell said, "It's actually possible that culling the wolf colony on the North Slope of Alaska created conditions that gave rise to the caribou now called the Central Arctic Herd. They didn't used to exist until wolves were moved from that area. Wolves and caribou calving grounds don't mix. Wolves exhibit surplus killing behavior. They kill every calf they find, even if they don't eat them.

Alaska had an aerial wolf eradication campaign in the 1950s; the oil fields came in with exploration in the 1960s, and then the government established the native village of Nuiqsut in the 1970s. This reduced the wolf population on the North Slope to the point where all of the sudden it became feasible for it to be a caribou calving ground. It's speculation, but it's very interesting."

It all became clear to me. Her campaign was a creation of Dick Cheney & the oil companies. By eliminating the North Slope caribou herd, ANWR would become available for drilling.

Brilliant. If she pulls this off Ms. Judd should receive a 21 burst salute from the twin 50's mounted on the California Governer's state helicopter.

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[bobbbiez]

You can go on many sites about the pros and cons concerning wolves, but the truth is since 1995 many states have wolves on the endangered species list and have restoration programs to bring them back. They were becoming extinct because of people like Governor Palin who put opened bounties on their heads and established controls in place such as aerial killings. In programs now trying to restore the wolves in many states there are different controls being used and are very successful.

There are many untruths being stated about the actions of wolves and their being just a vicious predator. One which is being stated in Alaska is the wolves are the reason for the killing of too many caribou when in fact, human hunters, other animal predators, starvation, and old age kills three to four times the amount then the wolves.

I can only suggest if one is really interested in learning about this great animal that you just use the search on your computer to find out "all" the facts about their species. Fear which does produce killings comes from not knowing.

In no way would I ever condone aerial killing on any wild animal. There are other humane ways to put controls in place if needed.

[dgriffin]

Feb 11, 2009 0:43:13 GMT -5 bobbbiez said:

In no way would I ever condone aerial killing on any wild animal. There are other humane ways to put controls in place if needed.

Probably not as cheaply, Bobbbiez.

[bobbbiez]

Dave, pretty damn sad when it all comes down to that.
Especially when money is spent on ridiculous things by the government.

I can only suggest it's time for Governor Palin to investigate how other states manage animal controls without aerial killings that works for them. She can begin with the State of Wyoming where there are programs in place that have been successful.