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Post by frankcor on Feb 26, 2009 14:38:12 GMT -5
Lefty, I'll repeat what I said to the legislature last night: the county cannot afford to provide their current level of services. They must cut services and they must cut cost.
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Post by dgriffin on Feb 26, 2009 16:13:43 GMT -5
Lefty, I'll repeat what I said to the legislature last night: the county cannot afford to provide their current level of services. They must cut services and they must cut cost. Very difficult to do, although necessary. Their constituencies would make it impossible for these legislators of limited creativity* to choose what to cut. Because they can afford to lose some votes, it will be up to the politicians who are solidly in their offices by good majorities to take the lead in what can only be termed a revolution. But these same folks may not know any other roadmap than pleasing the most, since that's how they keep their jobs. Maybe I'm pessimistic, but I've never seen my taxes decrease. I'm coming to believe that if our current batch of politicians aren't willing to start a revolution, eventually they will be served one. In today's news is word of the unemployment situation in Colorado, where the State Unemployment department is so busy they're planning to work on Sundays. Unemployment will dampen business further, spiraling the nation into a vertigo of more of the same from government, higher and higher taxes and expensive programs that cater to strategic voter blocks rather than to the majority of working men and women. When your neighbors are about to be turned out of their home for nonpayment of property taxes, you'll feel sorry for them. When everyone on your street or road is about to be forced out, told to leave their homes of many years because they can no longer pay the escalating taxes forced on them by their "leaders," it will be a much different story. *I don't know any of these people, but I assume them to be of the same genre as any other county legislature I've known.
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Post by frankcor on Feb 26, 2009 17:03:25 GMT -5
Dave, your assumptions appear accurate. From what I saw last night, they don't seemed equipped to manage a business the size of Oneida county.
I could predict their move last night the moment I heard Schumer was in town to announce he was going to deliver $30 million to relieve the part of the burden Oneida County taxpayers were carrying of the non-funded Medicaid mandates from the state.
I can't find any budget summary information on the county's web site, but I see in last year's state-of-the-county address, Picente claims that the taxpayers tab for Medicaid is in excess of $50 million a year.
What I believe the legislature SHOULD do with the generous gift from Gracious God Obama of $30 million delivered by our generous gracious Senator Schumer is give it back to the taxpayers. Instead, the legislature is going to balance the budget by providing too many services that we can't afford.
They're going to put people on the payroll and then next year claim that they are forced to raise taxes even higher because federal aid has been reduced by those meanies in Washington.
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Post by wcup102 on Feb 26, 2009 18:45:50 GMT -5
Did you ever notice that it is the working class that is the majority of the critics, complainers, and victims? Cut the welfare benefits. Give the laid off workers the priority of benefits. Theyare the ones that paid in for all those years and built their lifestyle that they are in jeapoardy of losing, not to mention being able to feed thier families. The entitlement programs need the cutting, not the services that the working man is paying for. I'm sick of seeing the honest worker getting in the ass all the time and the career welfare bums getting more for doing even less, except for standing in line waiting for their hand out. Help out the guy that just got laid off after 10 or 15 years and has paid his way all these years and raised his kids to be productive and respectable. The problem is there is no incentive to get off welfare. AND STOP TAKING IN EVERYONE'S IMMIGRANTS. THERE ARE OTHER COUNTIES AND STATES THEY CAN GO TO, SO STOP SOLICITING FOR THEM TO COME HERE. Some become productive but most suck off the system and are tax free for 7 years. When was the last time any one of you were able to waive your tax obligation for 7 years?
It's time to STOP being politically correct and start being fiscally responsible. Maybe my redneck side is coming through but......"I'm pissed off and I ain't gonna take it no more"
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Post by dgriffin on Feb 26, 2009 20:15:00 GMT -5
AND STOP TAKING IN EVERYONE'S IMMIGRANTS. THERE ARE OTHER COUNTIES AND STATES THEY CAN GO TO, SO STOP SOLICITING FOR THEM TO COME HERE. [/size] [/quote] I was gonna bring that up. I heard absolutely nothing about immigration in Obama's address to Congress. If the President wants to put every American back to work, is he going to stop or curtail immigration? Obama stressed alternative energy and infrastructure improvements. Many of these jobs are in construction. In the past few months, I've run into quite a few skilled Mexicans whose work ethic will run rings around many Americans. They are definitely competitive. At the moment they're head back south. Friends in western North Carolina told us last year that crowds of young Mexican men would gather on 2 or 3 street corners in their town each morning to be chosen for day labor, skilled and unskilled. Employers flocked downtown to hire them. $10 per hour, no benefits, no social security or taxes, no green cards, all under the table. This all went undisturbed by the "authorities," who are evidently related to the contractors. This year construction has ground to a halt all over the nation, and the Mexicans have left and gone back to Mexico, we're told. Local high school girls now have nowhere to go for whistles and catcalls as they drive by in their convertibles.
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Post by concerned on Feb 26, 2009 20:31:04 GMT -5
Isn't Obama's whole message to keep and creat jobs
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Post by frankcor on Feb 26, 2009 20:32:04 GMT -5
wcup, I watched that interview of Harry Reid as he repeated his claim that income tax in the US is voluntary without even cracking a smile. Reid feels no compulsion to tell the truth and can lie without shame.
Dave, not to gang up on our Hispanic neighbors, check this out:
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Post by wcup102 on Feb 26, 2009 20:49:03 GMT -5
Dave I heard the same thing and saw a documentary on just that. I agree some are very talented and are hard working. If they are citizens, put them to work.
Frankcor........too funny!!!!!
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