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Post by dgriffin on Mar 19, 2008 22:17:27 GMT -5
The Regina Apostolorum Pontifical Athenaeum has issued this opinion on Polka Masses. www.ewtn.com/library/Liturgy/zlitur29.htm"Isn't the music at Mass supposed to elevate one's spirit to God? Does a polka do that?" ZENIT International News Agency Via della Stazione di Ottavia, 95 00165 Rome, Italy |
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Post by frankcor on Mar 19, 2008 22:22:01 GMT -5
People get paid to do this? Where can I get an employment application for Regina Apostolorum Pontifical Arthenaeum?
It may be just the stepping stone I need to become Grand Inquisitor.
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Post by dgriffin on Mar 19, 2008 22:43:59 GMT -5
People get paid to do this? Alas, yes they do. I wonder where the money comes from? |
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Post by Ralph on Mar 20, 2008 1:22:53 GMT -5
People get paid to do this? Alas, yes they do. I wonder where the money comes from? Well if you have to wonder, then you don't need to know!  |
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Post by kim on Mar 20, 2008 7:03:20 GMT -5
I'm trying to picture my 70 aunt the nun at a Polka mass. That is a very amusing picture!
Great, now I have the chicken dance in my head.
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Post by denise on Mar 20, 2008 8:47:47 GMT -5
Or, "In Heaven There Is No Beer"
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Post by Clipper on Mar 20, 2008 11:34:40 GMT -5
 We have to remember that we have lost the Polish Pope, and now have a German Pope. It is only a matter of converting the Polka Mass to a more appropriate Schuhplattling Mass. It will be a difficult transition, but the shoe slapping, foot stomping german folk dance is still performed to a fast paced stimulating rythm. Frank did some time in Germany with the Army. Maybe he can teach us a few fancy steps. Folk masses were cool at St Peters when father Quinn was there in the 60's or 70's. I am holding out for a Pope from Appalachia, so we can have Bluegrass masses. It is pretty sad that the Vatican has to interfere in anything that will bring interest or hold the interest of folks that are going to church. The catholic church is losing members and can't find priests and nuns now. Why would they further discourage attendance and participation? I was under the impression that worship was about "celebrating Jesus Christ", "rejoicing in the Lord", " praising a benevolent and loving God" and all that sort of stuff. Why does the Vatican have to insist on keeping the mass a somber and boring occasion of nothing but repetitious ceremony? I would think that a church that is suffering a decline in participation, would welcome anything that marketed the church as a place to find "joy" as well as peace and learning.
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Post by concerned on Mar 20, 2008 11:55:01 GMT -5
Very well put Clipper. I do remember just after Vatican II and several years after that. Experimenting with liturgy was very popular, at least down south where I was living. I remember going Saturday nights to an underground liturgy(mass) offered by our dear Jesuits. The event was always very amusing all kinds of music that the official church's view didnot contain the elements that would uplift the soul as the person enters into a faith experience during liturgy. I was all amused by the many people who came after several hours of partying, lol. Some staggered as they walked up to drink from the chalice. I remember attending a clown mass where the priests, ministers of the alter all dressed as clowns. I guess if you think about the philosophy of the clown then a theology can be built around it, lol
Alot of music is very good and can be used to express the depth of worship. I for one never could stand the song: Amazing Grace, however the song: Happy Birthday Jesus, was interesting except there was always a sense of uneasiness amoung adult males when it came to singing it.
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Post by frankcor on Mar 20, 2008 13:10:47 GMT -5
If music were the highest priority for me (and it's right up near the top already), I would have converted to Southern Baptist years ago.
Catholic music bites. The hymns are unsingable.
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Post by Clipper on Mar 20, 2008 14:51:08 GMT -5
I guess the solemnity of the catholic mass is a matter of teachings and preferences. I always found the mass, especially the high mass to be beautiful, but almost sad in a way. The organ music always reminded me of a dirge of sorts. I was possibly turned against the church by a select few, that I had experience with. I was taught more about the penalties of sin, than the rewards of goodness and faith. I learned to fear purgatory and hell, more than to anticipate and look forward to the rewards in heaven. Maybe I simply encountered a few negative nuns and priests. I sure was not that bad at the age of 10 or 11 that I needed that "fear" struck into my heart, or an exorcism. LOL.
I don't ridicule anyone's faith or mean to offend anyone's religion. I don't subscribe to a particular church's doctrine and have no room to criticize one's faith, and don't intend my post to reflect that motive. I simply think that from my own experience, my mind was more open to the word of God when a joyous and cheery song was in my heart during the service. An upbeat musical experience in church sent me on my way with a song in my heart, and a feeling of renewal, but that is strictly my own feeling.
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Post by dgriffin on Mar 20, 2008 15:20:13 GMT -5
If music were the highest priority for me (and it's right up near the top already), I would have converted to Southern Baptist years ago. Catholic music bites. The hymns are unsingable. I can't think of anything to add to what I said in this: www.windsweptpress.com/cheated.htm |
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We have to remember that we have lost the Polish Pope, and now have a German Pope. It is only a matter of converting the Polka Mass to a more appropriate Schuhplattling Mass.