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Post by concerned on Dec 4, 2008 10:23:02 GMT -5
I was wondering.
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Post by Clipper on Dec 4, 2008 10:41:40 GMT -5
A different firm than the one that remodeled the Hotel Utica. I know that because if it was them, we would still be paying the loans and taxes for them.
Actually I don't know the "contractor", but the labor is said to have been mostly black slaves, who are purported to have only made $5 a month, as per wiki and google.
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Post by kim on Dec 4, 2008 11:02:05 GMT -5
My parents live in a white house. I think a bunch of priests built it about 200 years ago. ;-)
Seriously, I just googled The White House and found this:
The main residence, as well as foundations of the house, were built largely by enslaved and free African-American laborers, as well as employed Europeans. Much of the other work on the house was performed by immigrants, many not yet with citizenship. The sandstone walls were erected by Scottish immigrants, employed by Hoban, as were the high relief rose and garland decorations above the north entrance and the "fish scale" pattern beneath the pediments of the window hoods. Much of the brick and plaster work was produced by Irish and Italian immigrants. The initial construction took place over a period of eight years, at a reported cost of $232,371.83 ($2.4 million in 2005 dollars). Although not yet completed, the White House was ready for occupancy on or circa November 1, 1800.[11]
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Post by concerned on Dec 4, 2008 11:35:14 GMT -5
Since it was built by slaves I would think that it should not be home for our new President. It doesn't seem right to me.
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Post by Clipper on Dec 4, 2008 11:38:05 GMT -5
Cost $232K? Hell presidents today spend more than that on remodeling to their personal preference each time the administration changes. I read that Obama is going to take out the bowling alley in hte basement and put in basketball courts. After his bowling fiasco during the campaign, I would think he needed to keep them there and LEARN TO BOWL! He needs LOTS of practice, haha.
Hell, now instead of barbecues at the ranch, the pres will have "pick up games" of round ball in the basement when dignitaries visit, haha! I can't wait until Queen Elizabeth visits again.
I bet removing the bowling alleys and building a B'ball court will cost more than the White House cost to build. I am not for spending taxpayer money to remodel for each president. Let Obama shoot hoops with a nerf ball and a plastic hoop hung over his bedroom door, haha!
I am not for presidents having the freedom to remove things and make changes to the White House. It doesn't belong to them, it belongs to us. If any serious changes such as removing the bowling alley is to be done, it should be approved by congress. He may only be there for 4 years, and the next president may not shoot baskets OR bowl, and we may get the bill for putting a hockey rink in the basement, what the hell, haha.
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Post by concerned on Dec 4, 2008 11:41:15 GMT -5
kim are u serious! Do you have any idea if they were religious priests or diocesan, I don't think they would have been diocesan. Do you know which religious community involved? What was the purpose for building the house? This is interesting.
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Post by Clipper on Dec 4, 2008 11:52:48 GMT -5
Just think. Every time your mom and dad made love in that house, a whole bunch of frustrated celibates roll in their graves, LOL! I wonder why they built that house. St Mary's is quite a distance from your house and I am not sure if St Mary's is 200 years old is it? It would not have been a rectory or residence for brothers or priests I wouldn't think.
I guess Dave could speak to it better than I, but I think priests and monks provided craftsmanship and different services in the old days, such as making wine, baking bread, and other things the community needed. Maybe the priests that built your house were simply talented carpenters and cabinet workers or something and building was their avocation and mission.
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Post by kim on Dec 4, 2008 12:19:49 GMT -5
The house was a rectory at one point, but I don't know the details. It would be interesting to find out!
Cipper, I don't want to think about my parents having sex! :-o Thanks a lot of that mental image! ACK!
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Post by Clipper on Dec 4, 2008 12:47:44 GMT -5
Sorry, haha. More thinking about the idea of a married couple sleeping in a house built by celibate priests, than about who was involved in the acts. Hell, life for those dudes must be REALLY boring, hahaha.
Hey, if ya don't like the other image , (I never could get comfortable with the idea that my mom and dad "did it" it either) simply convince yourself that you were conceived by two pipettes and a petrie dish, with DNA material donated by good old mom and dad. That may be easier to process in your visuals, LOL.
I myself was dropped down the chimney by the stork. He obviously dropped me headfirst, because I have NEVER been quite right since.
Hey, No offense intended! LOL
Just think the ghosts that could be shaken out of the beams and corners, by rockin the rafters in an old convent too! Heehee!
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Post by dgriffin on Dec 4, 2008 13:32:05 GMT -5
"Who Built The White House" An Irishman, of course. All about it in Wiki: "George Washington ... quickly selected the submission of James Hoban, an Irishman living in Charleston, South Carolina.[4] Washington was not entirely pleased with the original Hoban submission, however; he found it too small, lacking ornament, and not fitting the nation's president. The building Hoban designed is verifiably influenced by the first and second floors of Leinster House, in Dublin, Ireland, which later became the seat of the Oireachtas (the Irish parliament). " ... it was built between 1792 and 1800 of white-painted Aquia sandstone in the late Georgian style and has been the executive residence of every U.S. President since John Adams." Jefferson added the colonade, probably the most recognizable feature of the White House, to hide the stables.  Hoban's early sketch. |
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Post by Ralph on Dec 4, 2008 15:26:52 GMT -5
Since it was built by slaves I would think that it should not be home for our new President. It doesn't seem right to me. I don't see what difference this would make, everyone that was alive then is dead now. If anything I would be honored to live in a home that one of my forebearers may have constructed. |
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Post by Clipper on Dec 4, 2008 15:41:58 GMT -5
Good thing that Jefferson built the colonade to hide the stables. Rumor has it that Bill Clinton resided there with a horses ass, that later became a senator and now secretary of state. Would not have wanted that end of the horse visible from Pennsylvania Avenue. The oval office antics were embarrassing enough!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2008 17:21:13 GMT -5
A different firm than the one that remodeled the Hotel Utica. I know that because if it was them, we would still be paying the loans and taxes for them. Actually I don't know the "contractor", but the labor is said to have been mostly black slaves, who are purported to have only made $5 a month, as per wiki and google. Too bad it wasen't union labor. If they had union representation they would have made at least twice that ammount. Where the hell was George Meany & what was he thinking? |
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Post by snickers on Dec 5, 2008 21:44:50 GMT -5
Good thing that Jefferson built the colonade to hide the stables. Rumor has it that Bill Clinton resided there with a horses ass, that later became a senator and now secretary of state. Would not have wanted that end of the horse visible from Pennsylvania Avenue. The oval office antics were embarrassing enough! Bill Clinton IS a horse's ass! |
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Post by Clipper on Dec 5, 2008 22:17:05 GMT -5
Oh Yeah, that too! haha!
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