Olbiston Apts:

[artsyone]

Atticus Pizza stated that the new Olbiston would not be accepting Section 8 renters. I think that is illegal to discriminate against a tenant because of there pay status. Where did you hear that Atticus? Several others that I know seem to think that is so, but no one knows exactly where they heard it. The property is being managed by CRM Mangt and they have plenty of Sec 8 renters across all of there properties. Thanks.

[BHU]

Jan 30, 2024 20:27:46 GMT -5 artsyone said:

Atticus Pizza stated that the new Olbiston would not be accepting Section 8 renters. I think that is illegal to discriminate against a tenant because of there pay status. Where did you hear that Atticus? Several others that I know seem to think that is so, but no one knows exactly where they heard it. The property is being managed by CRM Mangt and they have plenty of Sec 8 renters across all of there properties. Thanks.

I'm not picking on anyone but if that's the case I can think of two reasons why:

1. They just sunk millions of dollars to rehab Olbiston & they want to keep out the riff raff who will destroy the place.

2. They don't want to deal with Sec 8 red tape to get tenants certified for the payments.

Just my $.02. 

[artsyone]

If they want to keep out the riff raff who destroyed the place they had better start with the absentee landlords who allowed the riff raff to proliferate in the first place just do they could get another all mitey dollar so they could schmear more cream cheese on there god forsaken bagels. Case in point: not all section 8' ers are riff raff. I myself receive section 8 and I am well educated, and intelligent and here having a seemingly friendly discourse with you. Any person at any time can engage in wild card criminal behaviour and there is never any telling with tenants, what you see is not always what you get. I worked all my life as a waitress, nurses aide, then county social worker and now I am disabled and retired. Section 8 shaming is passe. I am seeking information, that's all. Pizza Ball put up his query then he didn't answer me. I wanted to know where he got that info from. Yes, sec 8 does have some red tape, but it's no more than most and not insurmountable. My point is about discrimination. The city gave this company Big Buxx to redo this building and this acceptance of the Bigg Buxx has a caveat: that this affordable housing will be open to anyone who can qualify for irregardless of there pay status.

[BHU]

I'm not "shaming" anybody. The fact remains that there is a certain segment of society who have no respect for other people's property. I've seen it first hand with friends who actually OWNED property that was destroyed by renters who don't give a damn. The same crowed who screwed property owners during Covid for thousands of $$$ in rent payments. Sa that too! If the city gave conditions to those developers that they had to rent to anyone regardless of pay status, then what's the problem anyway?

Oh, btw. I don't know what cream cheese & bagels has to do with the subject at hand, but I get it.

[Atticus Pizzaballa]

On WKTV newscast one evening an employee was interviewed who stated that the apartment are inspected every 4 months and in this place no sec 8 renters will be involved. I do not care either way but whoever owned that place allowed people to live in filth and in a very unsafe building. I think that is shameful.

I do not think the Olbiston Apartments will be under the HUD umbrella so no subsidised apartments all market rate. The new lofts and new apartment complex recently built are all market rate apartments. For those apartments income standards are strictly imposed. 

[artsyone]

Feb 5, 2024 16:26:13 GMT -5 Atticus Pizzaballa said:

On WKTV newscast one evening an employee was interviewed who stated that the apartment are inspected every 4 months and in this place no sec 8 renters will be involved. I do not care either way but whoever owned that place allowed people to live in filth and in a very unsafe building. I think that is shameful.

I do not think the Olbiston Apartments will be under the HUD umbrella so no subsidised apartments all market rate. The new lofts and new apartment complex recently built are all market rate apartments. For those apartments income standards are strictly imposed. 

[artsyone]

I saw that video on WKTV, the speaker was a Tim Tarbox who is head of construction ops during the project. I did not hear him say that unless the video on WKTV was cut, that is why I am asking. There is a lot of scut going around about the building and the tenants, most of it is untrue. What is true is that the Olbiston is NOT market rate housing, it is Affordable housing under the umbrella of HUD. The building is privately owned, it will be managed by CRM Property Management, and the monies that are driving the reconstruction are a mixture of Historical, Federally funded, State and local. Also, yes, whoever owned it did allow the residents to live in degredation and filth, I know who they are and I have no respect for them, but that is over now. It's time to move on to whatever the future brings. Positivity breeds more positivity.

[artsyone]

Feb 5, 2024 15:31:00 GMT -5 BHU said:

I'm not "shaming" anybody. The fact remains that there is a certain segment of society who have no respect for other people's property. I've seen it first hand with friends who actually OWNED property that was destroyed by renters who don't give a damn. The same crowed who screwed property owners during Covid for thousands of $$$ in rent payments. Sa that too! If the city gave conditions to those developers that they had to rent to anyone regardless of pay status, then what's the problem anyway?

Oh, btw. I don't know what cream cheese & bagels has to do with the subject at hand, but I get it.

[artsyone]

I wasn't aware that being proactive and standing up for what you believe and what is right was a problem, thank you very much.

[BHU]

Standing up for what you believe in is not a problem. Owning rental property is a business. Period. Landlords have a responsibility to ensure that their properties are safe, up to code, secure etc. That's it. It's not the property owner's responsibility to babysit renters who destroy things, don't pay rent, engage in unlawfull activities etc. etc. And if a property owner doesn't want to deal with Sec 8 renters then that's their business. THEY own the property. Period. I know for a fact that plenty of owners of rental properties in this area sold them because they're sick of renting to people who destroy everything, don't pay rent or skip out leaving the landlords holding the bag including in some cases thousands of dollars in damages. Trying to collect from these people? You have a better chance of winning Powerball.

Granted, Olbiston was a disgusting unsafe rathole. Hopefully, it will never return to what it was before & will be something renters & citizens of this city can be proud of. Keep the riff raff out & it will be.

[artsyone]

Thanks for your comment BHU. You have made some trenchant points,

[artsyone]

Thanks for your comment BHU. You have made some trenchant points, be well and stay safe in all you do.

[artsyone]

Thanks for your comment BHU. You have made some trenchant points, be well and stay safe in all you do.

[BHU]

Feb 5, 2024 22:47:01 GMT -5 artsyone said:

Thanks for your comment BHU. You have made some trenchant points, be well and stay safe in all you do.

So have you, Artsy. It'll all work out, one way or the other. Have a nice day!

[Atticus Pizzaballa]

Feb 5, 2024 18:36:06 GMT -5 artsyone said:

I wasn't aware that being proactive and standing up for what you believe and what is right was a problem, thank you very much.

It isn't. As long as what is right is correct.