Sliming Palin

[dgriffin]

There may be enough backlash from such comments to overcome the poor showing Palin has been making. I didn't see the Couric interview of Palin, but I've read parts of the transcript that a liberal friend has gleefully sent me. Her performance on foreign policy questions appears abysmal.
I don't expect much from a vp candidate, despite the harping on "heartbeat away," because they're always chosen as icing to the main candidate's cake. But if she doesn't sound better than Biden tomorrow night, of all people, McCain's advisers may begin to think of getting out the toaster.

It's been done, and some of us remember the Tom Eagleton mess. McGovern would have lost anyway, I think, so you really can't say that ditching the vp candidate resulted in the ticket going down to defeat.
Maybe Palin says some temporary personal thing has come up and resigns. She says she'll be available for a cabinet position and McCain agrees while he replaces her with .... who? McCain will have gotten a lot of mileage from Palin ... it rejuvenated his campaign. But down to the wire he runs with an old pro, whom the country will feel comfortable with. Leiberman? Who do you think? Please God, don't say Romney! And I suppose the country is not ready yet again for my idol, Newt Gingrich.

[wilum47]

Wow finally remember who Biden looks like.........

Any thought who Jeff Dunham had in mind when he carved out old Walter! ;D

[Clipper]

I look back a week and see how I played into the same hands that slime Palin. Of course Joe Biden finished the 6th grade. I am sure he probably is an educated man, and only time will tell if he learned what will a necessary to be the vice president of the United States. (personally I am hoping we don't have to find out at all, and that Palin will be VP)

I have recently come to the conclusion that all the fighting and smearing and negativity, while probably conceived as being productive in a campaign, is just futile and stupid.

I have been involved in heated discussions on blogs, where I steadfastly stood by McCain, his war record, and his patriotism, while beating down and belittling Obama's achievments and qualifications. Did I win any votes for McCain?? HELL NO! All I did was create an environment where a bunch of left wing liberals suited up and pounded my "right leaning" independent ass into the mud, haha. I guess that is what I get for going on a blog and posting in opposition to a bunch of much younger, "better educated" (the jury is still out on that one) and sincerely adamant in support of Obama.LOL.


I have discovered that when it comes near the end of the campaign, the excuses start to fly. Yesterday it was an "anti-intellectual" undercurrent flowing through mainstream america. Another day it was the same old shit that racism is going to sink Obama's ship.

McCain has the age thing against him, and the falsehood that he would bring "more of the same." I doubt that he will follow much of Bush's personal agenda, seeing as how he has become the redheaded step child for some of his opposition of Bush's initiatives. Mcain also has his choice for VP as a bone of contention. I will wait until I see the debate tonight before I pass judgment on Palin. I am not so sure if she was the ulitmate best choice for VP, although she will garner votes simply because she is a woman. Whether it will be the votes that might have gone to Hillary remains to be seen.

While the Democrats try to "dumb down" Palin's image, they only need to look at Pelosi to find someone that fills the slot as a female "breaking the glass ceiling" but comes across as a "dumb broad" at least once a week. I would not be surprised to see the party dump her as majority leader some time in the near future.

It's all in personal opinion and your personal agenda, and your personal impression of the candidates.

Whichever candidate wins, we will survive. It remains to be seen how Obama will actually handle the war, and how McCain will handle the economy, but both are smart men, and both are qualified to "serve". The scary thing is whether or not Obama is qualified to "lead". That is strictly my own opinion, and I approve this message.

I also have to commend our membership. We have had civilized discussion here on the forum, but have yet to have any heated and nasty exchanges or issues that required a bucket of cold water or a fire extinguisher. Kudos for your tolerance of others opinions and for you tolerance and self control, haha.

[stoney]

"I also have to commend our membership. We have had civilized discussion here on the forum, but have yet to have any heated and nasty exchanges or issues that required a bucket of cold water or a fire extinguisher."

[dgriffin]

From the Los Angeles Times:

Underestimate Palin at your own risk, former rivals say


By Stephen Braun and Tom Hamburger | Los Angeles Times Staff Writers
4:43 PM EDT, October 1, 2008


" With Thursday's vice presidential debate approaching, ex-aides and opponents of the Alaska governor recall her skill at jabbing with a smile, even if she wasn't always focused on learning the issues."

ANCHORAGE - When she appeared for a candidate's forum in front of a room filled with unionized Alaskan electrical workers during her run for governor in early October 2006, Sarah Palin was woefully unprepared. When the union members grilled her on labor policy, Palin faltered.

Afterward, a furious Palin cursed in anger and berated her staff, recalled two former senior campaign aides who blamed her unwillingness to bone up on workplace issues for the blunder.

But just a few weeks later, when Palin jousted with her two main rivals during critical pre-election debates, she was much more at ease. She distilled policy questions into simple answers and countered her opponents' attacks with verbal thrusts delivered with a sunny smile.

When one moderator asked what she would do if one of her unmarried daughters became pregnant, Palin had a ready answer, defending her antiabortion stance and deflecting the question toward her male rivals: "I would choose life. And I am confident you will be asking my opponents these same scenarios?"

www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/tv/bal-palin1001,0,3693034.story

[dgriffin]

Stakes mount for Palin


WASHINGTON - On the eve of the vice-presidential debate, a new poll shows that most Americans regard Sarah Palin as unqualified to take over as president should it become necessary.

The finding is a sharp reversal from earlier polling that showed she was considered qualified, and points to the heightened stakes for Palin in her faceoff with Delaware Sen. Joe Biden this evening.

"The combination of the less-than-successful interviews, along with Saturday Night Live parodies, have been not been good for her image," said Pitney, a one-time director of the Republican National Committee's research department.

In early to mid-September, a majority of Americans (52 percent) said they considered Palin qualified to be president, according to an independent Pew Research Center survey. But a follow-up poll, completed Monday and released yesterday, found that just over one in three (37 percent) hold that view now.

Women were more likely than men to have changed their opinion and are less likely than men to view Palin as qualified, according to Pew's latest poll.

www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/tv/bal-te.debate02oct02,0,4587753.story

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Well, we'll see what happens tonight.

[clarencebunsen]

By now, I'd wager that a majority of Ameircans believe that Gov. Palin thinks Africa is a country, even though it's based on an anonymous source with no evidence.

Contrast this with the pass that is generally given to Pres-elect Obama for saying that he had visited 57 states or VP-elect Biden that Pres FDR went on TV in 1929 to explain the Depression. Those both have tape to demonstrate their truth.

MSNBC has now shown that they so much WANT the Palin rumor to be true that they are willing to skip steps in fact checking (minor things like the source being a real person) to repeat the slime once again.

www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D94DQU5O0&show_article=1

[Deleted]

Ah, who cares what Palin did or didn't say. The election is over so let's move on. Palin will end up being just a footnote in history anyway. She's a run of the mill politician like most of 'em. No more, no less.

[Clipper]

I don't think that Palin will be fading into history very quickly. She was paired with a losing candidate, but that does not take away from her political ability or popularity among republicans and other Americans. She is much more appealing in her political ambitions than Hillary is.

The fact that the campaign made a mistake in simply pulling her out of a hat to enhance the chances of gaining the votes that would have went to Hillary, is moot. She still is a very competent governor and sadly, being good looking went against her, and allowed the media to develop the "dumb bimbo" persona that the left wing media wanted to purvey.

Sarah Palin is young, competent, and smart. She WILL be back in one capacity or another. She will most likely make a debut in Washington as a senator and go on from there to make Hillary the one that passes into history and be forgotten as anything but the real estate crook, and first lady to a president that got a blowjob in the oval office. Hillary definitely won't go down in history for her ACCOMPLISHMENTS as a senator from NY State, that is for sure.

[Deleted]

Real estate crook? Where's your proof? Do you know something that the special prosecutor didn't? She may or not be be remembered for what her husband did, but Bush will be remembered as the President who led this country into ruin. And before you jump on me, I'm no Hillary fan. And Palin will be back? That's what worries me. We have enough dumb asses in Washington already.

[Clipper]

Hillary being a lawyer herself, simply allowed her to cover her tracks. I am sure that the prosecutor was simply unable to get the goods on her.

If one were to poll the american people, I think you would find that a large percentage of those polled would agree that she most likely was involved in some illegal activity but was able to sidestep prosecution.

Ya see Kracker, America moves on public opinion, and if she is perceived to be a crook, then she will not live down that label, and what she has done for NY is surely not bolstering her popularity there either.

Ya see, when Palin has had a few years in a senate seat, she will probably be brighter than Joe Biden. She just needs experience. Those that have fallen off the left side of the earth SHOULD be afraid of her gaining office. Ya see not all the dumbasses are in Washington, and she would sure make the foundations wobble under some of the nations liberals.

Yes, we do have enough dumbasses in Washington DC. Two that come to mind immediately are the speakers of both houses of congress.

[dgriffin]

Kracker, I think you're more than a Hillary fan. I think you're a special operative from Arkan .... Arker ... Arka .... what's the name of that state again? Doesn't rhyme with Alaska.

[Clipper]

Well Kracker, I guess we have a little conflict here as to what the purpose of my posts are. I am disputing your discussion points, but I don't think it would be considered "jumping on you." You will most likely find on this forum, that if you come out with your guns blazing you are going to be shot back at. It is not a personal thing. Ya see discussion on this particular forum seems to moderate itself, with no interference from admin. If one wants to be negative or to seem like they are looking for an argument instead of an opposing but civil discussion, they will find themselves in a position of dissatisfaction when the anger remains one sided, and they can't get a rise out of anyone.

I for one am not against unions or union representation as a whole. I AM against unions forcing businesses into bankruptcy, and I am against unions playing games at the expense of those that they represent. You must have me mixed up with someone else. I was a union local president for 8 years and I attended Cornell Labor College nights and weekends to be sure I was equipped to represent the people of my local. I am NOT anti union by any means. I might be correctly called an enemy of the tactics used by the auto workers and THEIR union reps. Unions have a place and a purpose. When they forget what that purpose is, or fall into a position of greed and need to constantly have more, they have failed in their original purpose and mission. That is strictly a factual statement. That is what has happened in Detroit for years.

I am NOT jumping on anyone. If that is the way that you see my posts, I am sorry to have hurt your feelings, but if I were to intentionally jump on you, you would have no problem interpreting my intention. My apology for the misconception I may have allowed to take place.