Police: Drug-making chemicals force evacuations in

[rickolney]

Stoney that last question is also ages old in how human beings react to each other.

I don't want to divert the topic much, but I saw yesterday's OD. In it was their coverage of the 'news' about the evacuation. The actual evacuation happened the day before, correct me if I'm wrong please. Yet the OD coverage was listed in LOCAL UPDATES on the Local section, top news piece, talking about how the 1,000 block of Champlin had to be evacuated at about 6:46pm (on Tuesday) due to possible hazardous materials situation.

Now this WAS the mushroom/schrooms call. Yet the OD had no coverage on the perp being arrested and WHAT caused the evac as late as last night.

Amazing. That really astounds me.

Now, to HOW that guy was able to buy ether to make his 'sauce' ... that's a question that bears investigating and answers.

Lucy, Smiley -- Nice to make your acquaintance here. I took nothing negative from what either of you said. So as the kids used to say, "It's all good!" ;D

[stoney]

I didn't even know one could make hallucinogenic mushrooms; I thought they just grew naturally. When I read the article, as soon as I saw ether I assumed he was making Meth.

[Clipper]

I am with you Stoney. I didn't know that the mushrooms didn't just grow naturally and wild.

Rick, I don't know if one can simply purchase ether in a liquid form in cans like paint cans any more. They used to can it and store it in shelters and there was some with civil defense supplies at the base. It was destined to be used in MASH units, or for medical purposes in the event of disaster.

When I was a firefighter at the base, we discovered a whole cache of it that was outdated. It had become unstable so they brought in the Explosive Ordinance Demolition folks from Plattsburg, and they transported it to a safe location between the runways, and detonated it in one big fireball. It was really cool to watch.

Other than those cans, you can buy ether in spray cans labeled "starting fluid", and in little jelly like egg shaped cartridges, designed to fit into "ether injectors" on diesel engines.

[concerned]

We treat them with didtain because nobody wants ' those ' people in there neighborhood. But then on the other hand most neighbors are not interested in each other. Rehab has become a resort in many areas of the USA. In the Northeast, Rehab is very busy during the winter months.

[bobbbiez]

Stoney....Why? Because they're shooting, stabbing and robbing my neighbors.

[rrogers40]

The problem with the "War on Drugs" is that it is a "War on Drugs". People have always been using them and they always will- besides in a free market society the moment you make something illegal a black market forms and people get them anyways.

What it is time for is a War on the life style that promotes the use of Drugs. There needs to be a push for 2 parent homes, a push to get people into jobs and not living off of the system, force people, including the renters, to maintain there homes, and get people to realise the value of an education. Just going after drugs, or the dealers, is not going to do anything to stop people from using drugs as they will just get them from somewhere else.

[Clipper]

It is rather funny that this thread suddenly found new life after last being posted to on August 28th last year, LOL.

I agree with most of what you say Ryan, but we DO have to go after dealers and users alike, in order to bring any kind of control, or EVERYONE will be exposed to them on a much larger scale. Pot would become like cigarettes and meth would be like moonshine. Not hard to find, and no big deal to be caught with.

[dan]

We need a redefinition of what the term "citizen" means. I prefer the direction that Robert A. Heinlein took in "Starship Troopers" (I think I've cited it here before, but age is corrupting my memory files). "Citizens" should have to meet a certain level of responsibility to keep their rights, while "non" or "anti" citizens maintain a lower level of freedoms.

[frankcor]

I watched the movie "Traffic" recently. It did a good job of pointing out why a War on Drugs that does not address demand is doomed to failure.

[dgriffin]

Jan 26, 2009 12:02:04 GMT -5 rrogers40 said:

There needs to be a push for 2 parent homes, a push to get people into jobs and not living off of the system, force people, including the renters, to maintain there homes, and get people to realise the value of an education.

I'm thinking that wouldn't be new. That's the way the world used to be. Natural selection ferreted out those who couldn't make the cut and left them starving in the ditches along the roadsides, children and elderly included, as they moved from town to town seeking alms. Neighbors couldn't afford to help them. The rich sat back, quoting "The poor will always be with us."

If you couldn't tend your rented plot of land or not work due to an injury, you were SOL. As good as dead. The weak minded, weak muscled, and those with genetic traits that caused them to not do well or not get along soon died out. Only the strongest were left. Those were our ancestors. They were able to build a strong nation that could help its less fortunate.

So much so that today, some would say we are ruled by the people we set out to help.