Inspectors on the ground in Ukraine

[Clipper]

www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-pentagon-military-ukraine-idUSL1N31Z26L

I am sorry but I find the story a bit unnerving. Inspectors in Ukraine simply to track the delivery of weapons? Seems to me that it will be poking the bear and putting us a step closer to putting COMBAT troops on the ground if any Americans are killed at the hands of the Russians.

It harkens back to the US becoming involved in the Vietnam conflict. We had 25,000 "advisors" already in country when Johnson ordered 3500 marines to Vietnam to defend Da Nang in March of 65. By the end of 1965 we had 184,000 troops in Vietnam, and in 66 the troop level increased to 385,000 troops.

www.thoughtco.com/why-did-us-enter-vietnam-war-195158

We finally have all our troops out of Afghanistan even though the withdrawal was wrought with problems and errors. I am sorry but if it means ONE American life has to be sacrificed in Ukraine it is one American too many and if we become involved in combat in Ukraine we better be ready for nuclear war with a heartless psycho.

[Atticus Pizzaballa]

I don't like the entire set up. Never did. Ukraine is not part of NATO so it should not be getting any help from USA. It is horrible what Putin is doing to them but we have no business getting involved on any way. First we send weapons and now troops to make sure the weapons get there!

[Clipper]

We are supplying weapons and aid to Ukraine. They seem to be holding their own. WE do not need to put American troops in harms way in a protracted long and hard battle where we would most likely see a significant number of American casualties, and the harder we fought and deeper we became involved, the higher the risk of starting WWIII.

We lost over 58,000 troops in Vietnam, 24,000+ in Afghanistan, and in Iraq we lost 4,450 troops and over 3,000 contract personnel. Every generation since WWI has had to send troops into battle and suffered the combat losses of young Americans. It is strictly my opinion that it may be time to keep our troops at home unless there is an immediate threat to OUR welfare and safety. We can support places like the Ukraine with weapons and technology without risking young American lives on battle fields thousands of miles from home.

I guess having lived through the Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghan wars I am apprehensive and leery of involving our military in theater, even in a non-combat role, and risking escalation to active combat. 4 generations of my family have served in wars. My grandfather in WWI, my dad in both WWII and Korea, me and an uncle in Vietnam, and I have a stepson that saw combat in Iraq as well as Afghanistan and is now a major in the army. My granddaughter was recently promoted to Chief Petty Officer in the US Navy. I pray every day that we will see a generation of Americans that are able to live out their lives without going to war or sending their children to war.

[BHU]

Who is saying that we're putting troops into Ukraine? I've heard just the opposite. I hope not.

We'll see what happens in this election. A few of the Trump fringe far right psycho herd like MTG are ranting & raving about military aid to Ukraine. That madman must be against the idea on behalf of his buddy Pooty.

[Clipper]

Whether they be inspectors or advisors, they are US military personnel as is confirmed by the pentagon. In way to many cases the few have grown to thousands and our young men sacrificed their lives while those in authority sat fat, dumb and happy, sipping their martinis and going home every night to read the Wall Street Journal. It is not just the far right psychos that are questioning and a majority of republicans are not "far" ANYTHING and have a better grip on reality than our present president seems to have. As the billions in aid pile up some Americans begin to question the amount of money flowing to Ukraine in what seems to be a blank check, and rightly so while our economic situation is in decline. Most Americans are not against aiding Ukraine. Many of us are just against what seems to be the blank check or the idea that we are becoming the world's ATM and free flowing source of money. We have historic inflation, and between the monies being spent in the Ukraine on top of the cost of supporting the thousands of illegal immigrants flooding across our borders and receiving better care under social programs than American citizens who are homeless and unemployed. We have citizens that are college educated and working for a decent wage and are being promised forgiveness of college loan debt. Sorry. I am not sympathetic to their plight. They chose to go to college and they chose to borrow the money. I went in the military and came home to work my ass off for 45 yrs and you are damned right, I resent the idea of paying off their loans. My brother and sister both went to college to be teachers, taught for over 40 yrs each and PAID OFF THEIR OWN LOANS while raising kids, putting those kids through college, and paying a mortgage.

Kathy and I both worked our asses off to pay for everything we own and everything we own is paid for in full. If a person borrows money THEY need to pay it back. If they are looking for sympathy they will find it between s**t and syphilis in the dictionary. Life is a struggle. I paid my bills and I don't want to pay some whine ass's debts. If they are having a hard time paying their bills, they need to do what I did many times. GET ANOTHER JOB! There are "now hiring" signs all over the country.

www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-pentagon-military-ukraine-idUSL1N31Z26L

End rant! Sometimes a person just needs to unload and blow off steam and frustration and just make their own opinion known, right or wrong. I happen to define myself as a "moderate republican" aligned with the following definition:

Moderate Republicans believe in First Amendment freedoms; limited federal government; limited involvement in international conflicts; fair trade; free markets with protections to preserve competition and corporate accountability; equality without respect for race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, etc.; a powerful military; tax rates that are below or at the Laffer Curve; fiscal responsibility; secure borders; and equal and consistent enforcement of the law.

[BHU]

I'd rather see my tax dollars go to help out a college student pay off thousands of dollars in loan debt then see MY tax dollars go to corporate thieves who are robbing us blind & to multimillionaire/billionaires & Trump's pals lurking around his golf resorts like he & his GOP lackeys did with that tax cut they passed in 2018. The only good that came out of it was the sale of mega yachts went thru the roof. And they have the ba**s to talk about cutting SS & Medicare because of the defecit that Trump & his lackeys ballooned with that tax bill giveaway.

[Clipper]

LOL. Why did I know that it would solicit a response that was centered around Trump. I won't even type any sort of retort. Let's look at the stock portfolios of Democrats like Pelosi. I am sure there is an equal number of self-serving, money grubbing Democrats.

[BHU]

Swamp rat Trump is still running his party, so he deserves to be commented on.

Nancy Pelosi will be helping her 82 yr old husband in his recovery after almost being killed by that maniac. Trump? Yesterday he called her an animal at one of his rallies. That's the guy who the Republican Party still holds up for admiration. It's disgusting.

[Clipper]

Trump still WANTS to run his party. I am sure that there are plenty of Republicans that are hoping that the party will put forth a candidate that will win a primary against him and in turn win the presidency in 24. Many who supported an agenda more than the man. I am glad she is going to be helping her 82 yr old husband. I would expect no less. Inferring that the psycho that attacked Paul Pelosi is affiliated in any way to Trump or Trump supporters is a load of crap though. He is a mentally deranged immigrant who entered the country illegally from Canada. You ASSUME that Trump supporters form a majority of the Republican party. There is no substantiated data to support that claim.

As for name calling, Nancy has certainly gone tit for tat in the name calling game. An animal? How very rude of him. LOL! I have to admit that I have called her much worse.

[clarencebunsen]

What do changes to income tax, up or down, have to do with SS? Completely different funding streams.

[BHU]

Nov 8, 2022 23:57:49 GMT -5 Clipper said:

Trump still WANTS to run his party. I am sure that there are plenty of Republicans that are hoping that the party will put forth a candidate that will win a primary against him and in turn win the presidency in 24. Many who supported an agenda more than the man. I am glad she is going to be helping her 82 yr old husband. I would expect no less. Inferring that the psycho that attacked Paul Pelosi is affiliated in any way to Trump or Trump supporters is a load of crap though. He is a mentally deranged immigrant who entered the country illegally from Canada. You ASSUME that Trump supporters form a majority of the Republican party. There is no substantiated data to support that claim.

As for name calling, Nancy has certainly gone tit for tat in the name calling game. An animal? How very rude of him. LOL! I have to admit that I have called her much worse.

And I've called Trump much worse. But when we say something it's not relayed all accross the Country on social media & elsewhere like when Trump runs his mouth which has resulted in numerous govt. officials having to walk around with bodyguards to protect not only themselves, but their families including their own children who have been the subject of death threats from fringe right wing whacked out Trump supporters. 

[BHU]

Nov 9, 2022 9:03:42 GMT -5 clarencebunsen said:

What do changes to income tax, up or down, have to do with SS? Completely different funding streams.

Numerous republican officials have been proposing to cut those programs for years. I don't know exactly what scheme they have cooked up but it sure as hell won't benefit retirees now or in the future.